My wife uses an ibook at work. She is having increasing difficulty with
the machine's limited resources & condition (constantly having to
rebuild databases, and 2 weeks ago the latch broke, she has to hold it
shut with a rubber band) and is trying to get them to replace it. They
are claiming it is 4 years old and should be good for "at least another
year". She uses the machine for Internet (w/wifi on occasion) word
processing & very intense email w/Entourage. I am wondering if someone
can give me
an approximate age for the machine, given the following info:

Machine Model: iBook
CPU Type: PowerPC 750 (1.2)
Number Of CPUs: 1
CPU Speed: 600 MHz
L2 Cache (per CPU): 512 KB
Memory: 384 MB
Bus Speed: 100 MHz
Boot ROM Version: 4.3.6f3
Serial Number: UV2200S6LQ0

I don't know much about Macs, but this puppy seems pretty long in the
tooth to me. Also if there's a better place/NG to ask this question,
please let me know.

TIA


Dan

Hi!

> Machine Model: iBook
> CPU Type: PowerPC 750 (1.2)
> Number Of CPUs: 1
> CPU Speed: 600 MHz

A 600MHz PowerPC G3? I'd put it around 2001, maybe early/mid 2002...

I'd say such a machine is still usable, because I have a "Summer 2001"
500MHz iMac with Mac OS X 10.4.6. It works, but the video is the real
sticking point. Mac OS X 10.4 "Tiger" makes heavier use of video subsystem
features and it shows on this computer. However, I am making that statement
from the point of view where the machine is still in good physical
shape...this iMac is just about perfect in terms of condition. It doesn't
sound like this is the case for the iBook you have.

William

Hi!

> Machine Model: iBook
> CPU Type: PowerPC 750 (1.2)
> Number Of CPUs: 1
> CPU Speed: 600 MHz

A 600MHz PowerPC G3? I'd put it around 2001, maybe early/mid 2002...

I'd say such a machine is still usable, because I have a "Summer 2001"
500MHz iMac with Mac OS X 10.4.6. It works, but the video is the real
sticking point. Mac OS X 10.4 "Tiger" makes heavier use of video subsystem
features and it shows on this computer. However, I am making that statement
from the point of view where the machine is still in good physical
shape...this iMac is just about perfect in terms of condition. It doesn't
sound like this is the case for the iBook you have.

William

In article <aLWdnTCOZYS1nsXZnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@comcast.com>,
Dan <none********.com> wrote:

> My wife uses an ibook at work. She is having increasing difficulty with
> the machine's limited resources & condition (constantly having to
> rebuild databases, and 2 weeks ago the latch broke, she has to hold it
> shut with a rubber band) and is trying to get them to replace it. They
> are claiming it is 4 years old and should be good for "at least another
> year". She uses the machine for Internet (w/wifi on occasion) word
> processing & very intense email w/Entourage. I am wondering if someone
> can give me
> an approximate age for the machine, given the following info:
>
> Machine Model: iBook
> CPU Type: PowerPC 750 (1.2)
> Number Of CPUs: 1
> CPU Speed: 600 MHz
> L2 Cache (per CPU): 512 KB
> Memory: 384 MB
> Bus Speed: 100 MHz
> Boot ROM Version: 4.3.6f3
> Serial Number: UV2200S6LQ0
>
> I don't know much about Macs, but this puppy seems pretty long in the
> tooth to me. Also if there's a better place/NG to ask this question,
> please let me know.
>
> TIA
>
>
> Dan

Plugging the System Serial number into the following web site says:
<http://www.chipmunk.nl/klantenservice/applemodel.html>

Serial number: UV2200S6LQ0
Name: iBook G3 (Mid 2002)
Model: Mxxxx iBook G3 600MHz
Bus speed: 100MHz
Screen size: 12 inch
Factory: UV (Taiwan)
URL: Technical specifications by
apple-history.com code_to_number: 0S6 - HS4380JNR4N
<http://www.apple-history.com/?page=gallery&model=ibook_mid_2002>

Model introduced: 2002
Production year: 2002
Production week: 20 (May)
Production number: 890 (within this week)

You just gotta love Google! "mac serial number manufacture date"
found this web site as the first entry.

Bob Harris

In article <aLWdnTCOZYS1nsXZnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@comcast.com>,
Dan <none********.com> wrote:

> My wife uses an ibook at work. She is having increasing difficulty with
> the machine's limited resources & condition (constantly having to
> rebuild databases, and 2 weeks ago the latch broke, she has to hold it
> shut with a rubber band) and is trying to get them to replace it. They
> are claiming it is 4 years old and should be good for "at least another
> year". She uses the machine for Internet (w/wifi on occasion) word
> processing & very intense email w/Entourage. I am wondering if someone
> can give me
> an approximate age for the machine, given the following info:
>
> Machine Model: iBook
> CPU Type: PowerPC 750 (1.2)
> Number Of CPUs: 1
> CPU Speed: 600 MHz
> L2 Cache (per CPU): 512 KB
> Memory: 384 MB
> Bus Speed: 100 MHz
> Boot ROM Version: 4.3.6f3
> Serial Number: UV2200S6LQ0
>
> I don't know much about Macs, but this puppy seems pretty long in the
> tooth to me. Also if there's a better place/NG to ask this question,
> please let me know.
>
> TIA
>
>
> Dan

Plugging the System Serial number into the following web site says:
<http://www.chipmunk.nl/klantenservice/applemodel.html>

Serial number: UV2200S6LQ0
Name: iBook G3 (Mid 2002)
Model: Mxxxx iBook G3 600MHz
Bus speed: 100MHz
Screen size: 12 inch
Factory: UV (Taiwan)
URL: Technical specifications by
apple-history.com code_to_number: 0S6 - HS4380JNR4N
<http://www.apple-history.com/?page=gallery&model=ibook_mid_2002>

Model introduced: 2002
Production year: 2002
Production week: 20 (May)
Production number: 890 (within this week)

You just gotta love Google! "mac serial number manufacture date"
found this web site as the first entry.

Bob Harris

In article <aLWdnTCOZYS1nsXZnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@comcast.com>,
Dan <none********.com> wrote:

> ...I am wondering if someone can give me
> an approximate age for the machine, given the following info:
>
> Machine Model: iBook
> CPU Type: PowerPC 750 (1.2)
> Number Of CPUs: 1
> CPU Speed: 600 MHz
> L2 Cache (per CPU): 512 KB
> Memory: 384 MB
> Bus Speed: 100 MHz
> Boot ROM Version: 4.3.6f3
> Serial Number: UV2200S6LQ0
>
From <http://www.chipmunk.nl/cgi-fast/applemodel.cgi>

Serial number: UV2200S6LQ0
Name: iBook G3 (Mid 2002)
Model: Mxxxx iBook G3 600MHz
Bus speed: 100MHz
Screen size: 12 inch
Factory: UV (Taiwan)
URL: Technical specifications by apple-history.com code_to_number: 0S6 -
CK617016U2S

Model introduced: 2002
Production year: 2002
Production week: 20 (May)
Production number: 890 (within this week)


jim

In article <aLWdnTCOZYS1nsXZnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@comcast.com>,
Dan <none********.com> wrote:

> ...I am wondering if someone can give me
> an approximate age for the machine, given the following info:
>
> Machine Model: iBook
> CPU Type: PowerPC 750 (1.2)
> Number Of CPUs: 1
> CPU Speed: 600 MHz
> L2 Cache (per CPU): 512 KB
> Memory: 384 MB
> Bus Speed: 100 MHz
> Boot ROM Version: 4.3.6f3
> Serial Number: UV2200S6LQ0
>
From <http://www.chipmunk.nl/cgi-fast/applemodel.cgi>

Serial number: UV2200S6LQ0
Name: iBook G3 (Mid 2002)
Model: Mxxxx iBook G3 600MHz
Bus speed: 100MHz
Screen size: 12 inch
Factory: UV (Taiwan)
URL: Technical specifications by apple-history.com code_to_number: 0S6 -
CK617016U2S

Model introduced: 2002
Production year: 2002
Production week: 20 (May)
Production number: 890 (within this week)


jim

In article <hRT5g.713001$084.558180@attbi_s22>,
"William R. Walsh"
<newsgroups1@idontwantjunqueemail.walshcomptech.co m> wrote:

> Hi!
>
> > Machine Model: iBook
> > CPU Type: PowerPC 750 (1.2)
> > Number Of CPUs: 1
> > CPU Speed: 600 MHz
>
> A 600MHz PowerPC G3? I'd put it around 2001, maybe early/mid 2002...
>
> I'd say such a machine is still usable, because I have a "Summer 2001"
> 500MHz iMac with Mac OS X 10.4.6. It works, but the video is the real
> sticking point. Mac OS X 10.4 "Tiger" makes heavier use of video subsystem
> features and it shows on this computer. However, I am making that statement
> from the point of view where the machine is still in good physical
> shape...this iMac is just about perfect in terms of condition. It doesn't
> sound like this is the case for the iBook you have.
>

I'm also running Tiger (10.4.x) on a 500 MHz iBook G3... and it's
adequate for many uses.

I've added the free ShadowKiller (www.unsanity.com) which removes
shadows from the Dock and other UI elements, which helps display
speed... the one place I really notice display problems is with Google
Earth.

In article <hRT5g.713001$084.558180@attbi_s22>,
"William R. Walsh"
<newsgroups1@idontwantjunqueemail.walshcomptech.co m> wrote:

> Hi!
>
> > Machine Model: iBook
> > CPU Type: PowerPC 750 (1.2)
> > Number Of CPUs: 1
> > CPU Speed: 600 MHz
>
> A 600MHz PowerPC G3? I'd put it around 2001, maybe early/mid 2002...
>
> I'd say such a machine is still usable, because I have a "Summer 2001"
> 500MHz iMac with Mac OS X 10.4.6. It works, but the video is the real
> sticking point. Mac OS X 10.4 "Tiger" makes heavier use of video subsystem
> features and it shows on this computer. However, I am making that statement
> from the point of view where the machine is still in good physical
> shape...this iMac is just about perfect in terms of condition. It doesn't
> sound like this is the case for the iBook you have.
>

I'm also running Tiger (10.4.x) on a 500 MHz iBook G3... and it's
adequate for many uses.

I've added the free ShadowKiller (www.unsanity.com) which removes
shadows from the Dock and other UI elements, which helps display
speed... the one place I really notice display problems is with Google
Earth.

In article <aLWdnTCOZYS1nsXZnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@comcast.com>,
Dan <none********.com> wrote:

> My wife uses an ibook at work. She is having increasing difficulty with
> the machine's limited resources & condition (constantly having to
> rebuild databases, and 2 weeks ago the latch broke, she has to hold it
> shut with a rubber band) and is trying to get them to replace it. They
> are claiming it is 4 years old and should be good for "at least another
> year". She uses the machine for Internet (w/wifi on occasion) word
> processing & very intense email w/Entourage. I am wondering if someone
> can give me
> an approximate age for the machine, given the following info:
>
> Machine Model: iBook
> CPU Type: PowerPC 750 (1.2)
> Number Of CPUs: 1
> CPU Speed: 600 MHz
> L2 Cache (per CPU): 512 KB
> Memory: 384 MB
> Bus Speed: 100 MHz
> Boot ROM Version: 4.3.6f3
> Serial Number: UV2200S6LQ0
>
> I don't know much about Macs, but this puppy seems pretty long in the
> tooth to me. Also if there's a better place/NG to ask this question,
> please let me know.
>

The bottom line is she's running a 4-year-old machine that doesn't
approach the performance of the machine she could have today, and her
time is worth money - or should be - to her employer. She should start
accounting for the time she has to spend rebuilding databases and
otherwise waiting for things to happen that should be done in a snap.
And since its hard drive is 4 years old and already giving her trouble,
she should be backing it up weekly or more often, since the information
residing on it presumably has some value to her employer. And there's
the risk that the thing will crash and she'll lose time that way.

I assume that since her employer won't spring for a new computer, that
she's also underpaid. Let's say her loaded wage is $25/hr. The cost
of a new iBook is $999 for the minimum configuration, though it really
should be upgraded to 1 GB memory. That's paid for if she can recover
40 hours of lost time. If she doesn't need portability there are
other options cheap options. If she needs performance, she should get
a Macbook Pro.

My take is it never pays to scrimp on computers for work, because lost
time is expensive and computers are cheap.

If the company really believes that it's not worth replacing her
barely working computer, that means they are GOING TO FIRE HER
ANYWAY because her time is not worth money to them. If that's the
case, she needs to get a new job before they get around to it.

In article <aLWdnTCOZYS1nsXZnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@comcast.com>,
Dan <none********.com> wrote:

> My wife uses an ibook at work. She is having increasing difficulty with
> the machine's limited resources & condition (constantly having to
> rebuild databases, and 2 weeks ago the latch broke, she has to hold it
> shut with a rubber band) and is trying to get them to replace it. They
> are claiming it is 4 years old and should be good for "at least another
> year". She uses the machine for Internet (w/wifi on occasion) word
> processing & very intense email w/Entourage. I am wondering if someone
> can give me
> an approximate age for the machine, given the following info:
>
> Machine Model: iBook
> CPU Type: PowerPC 750 (1.2)
> Number Of CPUs: 1
> CPU Speed: 600 MHz
> L2 Cache (per CPU): 512 KB
> Memory: 384 MB
> Bus Speed: 100 MHz
> Boot ROM Version: 4.3.6f3
> Serial Number: UV2200S6LQ0
>
> I don't know much about Macs, but this puppy seems pretty long in the
> tooth to me. Also if there's a better place/NG to ask this question,
> please let me know.
>

The bottom line is she's running a 4-year-old machine that doesn't
approach the performance of the machine she could have today, and her
time is worth money - or should be - to her employer. She should start
accounting for the time she has to spend rebuilding databases and
otherwise waiting for things to happen that should be done in a snap.
And since its hard drive is 4 years old and already giving her trouble,
she should be backing it up weekly or more often, since the information
residing on it presumably has some value to her employer. And there's
the risk that the thing will crash and she'll lose time that way.

I assume that since her employer won't spring for a new computer, that
she's also underpaid. Let's say her loaded wage is $25/hr. The cost
of a new iBook is $999 for the minimum configuration, though it really
should be upgraded to 1 GB memory. That's paid for if she can recover
40 hours of lost time. If she doesn't need portability there are
other options cheap options. If she needs performance, she should get
a Macbook Pro.

My take is it never pays to scrimp on computers for work, because lost
time is expensive and computers are cheap.

If the company really believes that it's not worth replacing her
barely working computer, that means they are GOING TO FIRE HER
ANYWAY because her time is not worth money to them. If that's the
case, she needs to get a new job before they get around to it.

In article <alan-04C570.06431703052006@shawnews>,
Alan Zisman <alan@zisman.ca> wrote:

> In article <hRT5g.713001$084.558180@attbi_s22>,
> "William R. Walsh"
> <newsgroups1@idontwantjunqueemail.walshcomptech.co m> wrote:
>
> > Hi!
> >
> > > Machine Model: iBook
> > > CPU Type: PowerPC 750 (1.2)
> > > Number Of CPUs: 1
> > > CPU Speed: 600 MHz
> >
> > A 600MHz PowerPC G3? I'd put it around 2001, maybe early/mid 2002...
> >
> > I'd say such a machine is still usable, because I have a "Summer 2001"
> > 500MHz iMac with Mac OS X 10.4.6. It works, but the video is the real
> > sticking point. Mac OS X 10.4 "Tiger" makes heavier use of video subsystem
> > features and it shows on this computer. However, I am making that statement
> > from the point of view where the machine is still in good physical
> > shape...this iMac is just about perfect in terms of condition. It doesn't
> > sound like this is the case for the iBook you have.
> >
>
> I'm also running Tiger (10.4.x) on a 500 MHz iBook G3... and it's
> adequate for many uses.

I have the same at home, and it's been kinda OK since I upgraded to
640 MB of memory. It used to be 256 and that was truly wretched.
What it needs most now is a new 7200 RPM hard drive. But that can
wait until after I buy my new iMac Intel-core duo.

In article <alan-04C570.06431703052006@shawnews>,
Alan Zisman <alan@zisman.ca> wrote:

> In article <hRT5g.713001$084.558180@attbi_s22>,
> "William R. Walsh"
> <newsgroups1@idontwantjunqueemail.walshcomptech.co m> wrote:
>
> > Hi!
> >
> > > Machine Model: iBook
> > > CPU Type: PowerPC 750 (1.2)
> > > Number Of CPUs: 1
> > > CPU Speed: 600 MHz
> >
> > A 600MHz PowerPC G3? I'd put it around 2001, maybe early/mid 2002...
> >
> > I'd say such a machine is still usable, because I have a "Summer 2001"
> > 500MHz iMac with Mac OS X 10.4.6. It works, but the video is the real
> > sticking point. Mac OS X 10.4 "Tiger" makes heavier use of video subsystem
> > features and it shows on this computer. However, I am making that statement
> > from the point of view where the machine is still in good physical
> > shape...this iMac is just about perfect in terms of condition. It doesn't
> > sound like this is the case for the iBook you have.
> >
>
> I'm also running Tiger (10.4.x) on a 500 MHz iBook G3... and it's
> adequate for many uses.

I have the same at home, and it's been kinda OK since I upgraded to
640 MB of memory. It used to be 256 and that was truly wretched.
What it needs most now is a new 7200 RPM hard drive. But that can
wait until after I buy my new iMac Intel-core duo.

On 5/2/06 8:10 PM, in article aLWdnTCOZYS1nsXZnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@comcast.com,
"Dan" <none********.com> wrote:

> My wife uses an ibook at work. She is having increasing difficulty with
> the machine's limited resources & condition (constantly having to
> rebuild databases, and 2 weeks ago the latch broke, she has to hold it
> shut with a rubber band) and is trying to get them to replace it. They
> are claiming it is 4 years old and should be good for "at least another
> year". She uses the machine for Internet (w/wifi on occasion) word
> processing & very intense email w/Entourage. I am wondering if someone
> can give me
> an approximate age for the machine, given the following info:
>
> Machine Model: iBook
> CPU Type: PowerPC 750 (1.2)
> Number Of CPUs: 1
> CPU Speed: 600 MHz
> L2 Cache (per CPU): 512 KB
> Memory: 384 MB
> Bus Speed: 100 MHz
> Boot ROM Version: 4.3.6f3
> Serial Number: UV2200S6LQ0
>
> I don't know much about Macs, but this puppy seems pretty long in the
> tooth to me. Also if there's a better place/NG to ask this question,
> please let me know.
>
> TIA
>
>
> Dan

If she does decide to push them for a new laptop, tell her to wait a couple
of weeks. Rumor has it that the new Intel iBook (probably called the
MacBook -- without the "Pro") will be released this month. And it can run
Windows!

On 5/2/06 8:10 PM, in article aLWdnTCOZYS1nsXZnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@comcast.com,
"Dan" <none********.com> wrote:

> My wife uses an ibook at work. She is having increasing difficulty with
> the machine's limited resources & condition (constantly having to
> rebuild databases, and 2 weeks ago the latch broke, she has to hold it
> shut with a rubber band) and is trying to get them to replace it. They
> are claiming it is 4 years old and should be good for "at least another
> year". She uses the machine for Internet (w/wifi on occasion) word
> processing & very intense email w/Entourage. I am wondering if someone
> can give me
> an approximate age for the machine, given the following info:
>
> Machine Model: iBook
> CPU Type: PowerPC 750 (1.2)
> Number Of CPUs: 1
> CPU Speed: 600 MHz
> L2 Cache (per CPU): 512 KB
> Memory: 384 MB
> Bus Speed: 100 MHz
> Boot ROM Version: 4.3.6f3
> Serial Number: UV2200S6LQ0
>
> I don't know much about Macs, but this puppy seems pretty long in the
> tooth to me. Also if there's a better place/NG to ask this question,
> please let me know.
>
> TIA
>
>
> Dan

If she does decide to push them for a new laptop, tell her to wait a couple
of weeks. Rumor has it that the new Intel iBook (probably called the
MacBook -- without the "Pro") will be released this month. And it can run
Windows!