My daughter in law wants to set up her own website, can anyone point me
in the direction of software needed to do this. Is there anything
around in the 'free' domain (I guess not). Using MacOS X. Any advice
very welcome. Thanks.

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Lynn W wrote:
> My daughter in law wants to set up her own website, can anyone point me
> in the direction of software needed to do this. Is there anything
> around in the 'free' domain (I guess not)

Netscape "Composer" is free.
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http://bergenbulldogradio.blogspot.com/

Lynn W wrote:
> My daughter in law wants to set up her own website, can anyone point me
> in the direction of software needed to do this. Is there anything
> around in the 'free' domain (I guess not)

Netscape "Composer" is free.
--
http://bergenbulldogradio.blogspot.com/

In article <dvn780$5tu$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>,
"Lynn W" <lynn.williamson@btForeverRedinternet.com> wrote:

> My daughter in law wants to set up her own website, can anyone point me
> in the direction of software needed to do this. Is there anything
> around in the 'free' domain (I guess not). Using MacOS X. Any advice
> very welcome. Thanks.

While someone else recommended Netscape Composer, while that isn't bad
(and is free) it requires downloading and installing the entire Netscape
suite-- which is overkill if you're not planning to use that browser
(etc).

Perhaps a better choice these days is nVu (www.nvu.com)... it is an
offshoot of the old Netscape project, but unlike Netscape, it's just a
free web page builder.

Like Composer, it uses a graphic interface-- in other words, it makes
designing a web page more like using a word processor or page layout
program than dealing with computer code. It offers a Code View for the
times when it IS useful to deal with the raw HTML code.

I've got some tutorials on using Netscape Composer-- which can be easily
adapted to nVu: http://www.zisman.ca/composer/

In article <dvn780$5tu$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>,
"Lynn W" <lynn.williamson@btForeverRedinternet.com> wrote:

> My daughter in law wants to set up her own website, can anyone point me
> in the direction of software needed to do this. Is there anything
> around in the 'free' domain (I guess not). Using MacOS X. Any advice
> very welcome. Thanks.

While someone else recommended Netscape Composer, while that isn't bad
(and is free) it requires downloading and installing the entire Netscape
suite-- which is overkill if you're not planning to use that browser
(etc).

Perhaps a better choice these days is nVu (www.nvu.com)... it is an
offshoot of the old Netscape project, but unlike Netscape, it's just a
free web page builder.

Like Composer, it uses a graphic interface-- in other words, it makes
designing a web page more like using a word processor or page layout
program than dealing with computer code. It offers a Code View for the
times when it IS useful to deal with the raw HTML code.

I've got some tutorials on using Netscape Composer-- which can be easily
adapted to nVu: http://www.zisman.ca/composer/

In article <dvn780$5tu$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>,
"Lynn W" <lynn.williamson@btForeverRedinternet.com> wrote:

> My daughter in law wants to set up her own website, can anyone point me
> in the direction of software needed to do this. Is there anything
> around in the 'free' domain (I guess not). Using MacOS X. Any advice
> very welcome. Thanks.

Creating the web site (the actual pages) depends a lot on where
the web site is going to be hosted. If using something like a
..Mac account, Apple provides online tools for building your web
site.

Your ISP's may provide a web interface for building a web page
with your 5 or 10MB of web space the ISP provides. Your mileage
will vary depending on your ISP and what they provide.

Editing a web page on your Mac, people have already pointed out Nvu
http://www.nvu.com/

Someone else mentioned Netscape. I use just download Mozilla, and
use the Compose entry in the Mozilla File menu
http://www.mozilla.org/products/mozilla1.x/

It is possible to have your Mac act as the web server, but there
are issues. Not with the Mac itself, but with your ISP. Many
ISPs do not want you to run web servers from your home. They may
block port 80 (standard web server port). And they may have terms
and conditions in your service agreement. There are ways around
the blocked port 80.

You should also note, that if your ISP provides space for a web
page for your account, they also do not want you to have a
commercial business web page, if you are paying for a residential
service. They are funny that way :-)

You can be a web server to other computers in your home, even if
your ISP does not allow you to offer a web server to the internet.

MacOSX can be a web server by turning on
System Preferences -> Sharing -> Personal Web Sharing

Getting a MacOSX web server out to the internet has a few more
technical hurtles to get over (none of which are the Mac's fault).
In your home you may have a Cable/DSL Router between you and the
internet. It may be your Wireless base station, or you purchases
a Cable/DSL Router, or your broadband provider actually sent you a
combo router and modem. If there is a home router in the mix,
then you need to configure the router to forward port 80
connections from the internet to your Mac. If your ISP blocks
port 80, then you would want to have your router forward port 8080
to port 80 on your Mac, and have people connect to the web page
using a URL something like http://nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn:8080/webpage.html
where the nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn is either your IP address number or a
domain name that gets forwarded to your IP address number.

You can get your IP address number via http://whatismyip.com and
your number can change from time to time unless you paid extra for
a static IP address.

Getting around the dynamic IP address value, you can get a free
dynamic DNS name from dyndns.org or no-ip.com, and run a bit of
software on your Mac that keeps the dynamic DNS name updated on
any IP address changes on your Mac.

On the Mac there are 2 places to store a web page. The first is
to store it in your home directory under the Public folder. Then
have people access it via http://nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn/~username (or if
you have to get around a blocked port 80 then
http://nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn:8080/~username)

The other place to store a web page is in
/Library/WebServer/Documents/index.html
but you will want to change the ownership of the directory so that
it is easy to add, remove, and update your web site.

Bottom line. The first thing I would do is see if your ISP
includes some storage for a web site as part of your service. Put
the web page there. If available use the web based web page
building tools. Then expand into using Nvu or Mozilla's Compose.
Only look at other options if you out grow the ISP provided
service or if they do not offer what you need.

Bob Harris

In article <dvn780$5tu$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>,
"Lynn W" <lynn.williamson@btForeverRedinternet.com> wrote:

> My daughter in law wants to set up her own website, can anyone point me
> in the direction of software needed to do this. Is there anything
> around in the 'free' domain (I guess not). Using MacOS X. Any advice
> very welcome. Thanks.

Creating the web site (the actual pages) depends a lot on where
the web site is going to be hosted. If using something like a
..Mac account, Apple provides online tools for building your web
site.

Your ISP's may provide a web interface for building a web page
with your 5 or 10MB of web space the ISP provides. Your mileage
will vary depending on your ISP and what they provide.

Editing a web page on your Mac, people have already pointed out Nvu
http://www.nvu.com/

Someone else mentioned Netscape. I use just download Mozilla, and
use the Compose entry in the Mozilla File menu
http://www.mozilla.org/products/mozilla1.x/

It is possible to have your Mac act as the web server, but there
are issues. Not with the Mac itself, but with your ISP. Many
ISPs do not want you to run web servers from your home. They may
block port 80 (standard web server port). And they may have terms
and conditions in your service agreement. There are ways around
the blocked port 80.

You should also note, that if your ISP provides space for a web
page for your account, they also do not want you to have a
commercial business web page, if you are paying for a residential
service. They are funny that way :-)

You can be a web server to other computers in your home, even if
your ISP does not allow you to offer a web server to the internet.

MacOSX can be a web server by turning on
System Preferences -> Sharing -> Personal Web Sharing

Getting a MacOSX web server out to the internet has a few more
technical hurtles to get over (none of which are the Mac's fault).
In your home you may have a Cable/DSL Router between you and the
internet. It may be your Wireless base station, or you purchases
a Cable/DSL Router, or your broadband provider actually sent you a
combo router and modem. If there is a home router in the mix,
then you need to configure the router to forward port 80
connections from the internet to your Mac. If your ISP blocks
port 80, then you would want to have your router forward port 8080
to port 80 on your Mac, and have people connect to the web page
using a URL something like http://nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn:8080/webpage.html
where the nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn is either your IP address number or a
domain name that gets forwarded to your IP address number.

You can get your IP address number via http://whatismyip.com and
your number can change from time to time unless you paid extra for
a static IP address.

Getting around the dynamic IP address value, you can get a free
dynamic DNS name from dyndns.org or no-ip.com, and run a bit of
software on your Mac that keeps the dynamic DNS name updated on
any IP address changes on your Mac.

On the Mac there are 2 places to store a web page. The first is
to store it in your home directory under the Public folder. Then
have people access it via http://nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn/~username (or if
you have to get around a blocked port 80 then
http://nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn:8080/~username)

The other place to store a web page is in
/Library/WebServer/Documents/index.html
but you will want to change the ownership of the directory so that
it is easy to add, remove, and update your web site.

Bottom line. The first thing I would do is see if your ISP
includes some storage for a web site as part of your service. Put
the web page there. If available use the web based web page
building tools. Then expand into using Nvu or Mozilla's Compose.
Only look at other options if you out grow the ISP provided
service or if they do not offer what you need.

Bob Harris

Bob Harris wrote:
> Someone else mentioned Netscape. I use just download Mozilla, and
> use the Compose entry in the Mozilla File menu
> http://www.mozilla.org/products/mozilla1.x/

In the interest of completeness, Mozilla is no longer developing
the Mozilla Suite. New development has moved to the SeaMonkey
project. http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/
The current 1.0 release is what would have been Mozilla Suite
1.8. It uses the same core Gecko engine as the current versions
of Firefox and Thunderbird, but has browser, e-mail & news,
IRC and composer. I believe Netscape adds AIM & maybe some
other stuff.

--
Clem
"If you push something hard enough, it will fall over."
- Fudd's first law of opposition

Bob Harris wrote:
> Someone else mentioned Netscape. I use just download Mozilla, and
> use the Compose entry in the Mozilla File menu
> http://www.mozilla.org/products/mozilla1.x/

In the interest of completeness, Mozilla is no longer developing
the Mozilla Suite. New development has moved to the SeaMonkey
project. http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/
The current 1.0 release is what would have been Mozilla Suite
1.8. It uses the same core Gecko engine as the current versions
of Firefox and Thunderbird, but has browser, e-mail & news,
IRC and composer. I believe Netscape adds AIM & maybe some
other stuff.

--
Clem
"If you push something hard enough, it will fall over."
- Fudd's first law of opposition

Lynn W wrote
(in article
<dvn780$5tu$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>):

> My daughter in law wants to set up her own website, can anyone point me
> in the direction of software needed to do this. Is there anything
> around in the 'free' domain (I guess not). Using MacOS X. Any advice
> very welcome. Thanks.

One of the best out there right now is RapidWeaver from
realmacoftware.com. It's inexpensive (<$30) and extremely easy
to use.

Cheapest hosting is probably some place like GoDaddy.com.


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Randy Howard (2reply remove FOOBAR)
"The power of accurate observation is called cynicism by those
who have not got it." - George Bernard Shaw

Lynn W wrote
(in article
<dvn780$5tu$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>):

> My daughter in law wants to set up her own website, can anyone point me
> in the direction of software needed to do this. Is there anything
> around in the 'free' domain (I guess not). Using MacOS X. Any advice
> very welcome. Thanks.

One of the best out there right now is RapidWeaver from
realmacoftware.com. It's inexpensive (<$30) and extremely easy
to use.

Cheapest hosting is probably some place like GoDaddy.com.


--
Randy Howard (2reply remove FOOBAR)
"The power of accurate observation is called cynicism by those
who have not got it." - George Bernard Shaw