I am thinking of getting myself a nice G5 to replace my trusty G3 B&W.
The G3 has modern (= fast) HDs. Can I swap HDs from the G3 to the G5
just like that (and boot from them without any hassle) or is it not
going to work that easy?

Thanks - Robert

Bob Harris wrote:
> In article <438e9$433ff8a4$57d1408e$19655@news.versatel.nl> ,
> Robert <krekmek********.com> wrote:
>
>
>>I am thinking of getting myself a nice G5 to replace my trusty G3 B&W.
>>The G3 has modern (= fast) HDs. Can I swap HDs from the G3 to the G5
>>just like that (and boot from them without any hassle) or is it not
>>going to work that easy?
>>
>>Thanks - Robert
>
>
> No. The data cable is totally different.
>
> The G5 uses the new Serial ATA (SATA) disks, and the G3's use the
> traditional Parallel ATA disks.
>
> You can get a PCI ATA controller for your G5 if you like.
>
> Or just get an external Firewire (or USB 2) external enclosure and
> put your G3's disks in the external enclosure and attach them to
> your G5 using Firewire or USB2.
>
> And with the external enclosures you can use them to move huge
> amounts of data between systems, or you can so what many others
> so, use them as detachable backup devices.
>
> Bob Harris
Thanks Bob,

That means a fresh install of Tiger. Right now my G3 uses a PCI ATA
controller, I could swap that one :-)

Robert

In article <438e9$433ff8a4$57d1408e$19655@news.versatel.nl> ,
Robert <krekmek********.com> wrote:

> I am thinking of getting myself a nice G5 to replace my trusty G3 B&W.
> The G3 has modern (= fast) HDs. Can I swap HDs from the G3 to the G5
> just like that (and boot from them without any hassle) or is it not
> going to work that easy?
>
> Thanks - Robert

No. The data cable is totally different.

The G5 uses the new Serial ATA (SATA) disks, and the G3's use the
traditional Parallel ATA disks.

You can get a PCI ATA controller for your G5 if you like.

Or just get an external Firewire (or USB 2) external enclosure and
put your G3's disks in the external enclosure and attach them to
your G5 using Firewire or USB2.

And with the external enclosures you can use them to move huge
amounts of data between systems, or you can so what many others
so, use them as detachable backup devices.

Bob Harris

Robert <krekmek********.com> wrote:

> That means a fresh install of Tiger. Right now my G3 uses a PCI ATA
> controller, I could swap that one :-)

Not unless that PCI card can also work at 3.3 Volts. See
<http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=86513>.

Then you'd have to figure out where to put the drive and how to get
power to it and how to route the IDE ribbon cable from the card bay to
the drives. It's not impossible -- for example, Wiebetech has an
expensive kit for adding SATA drives
<http://www.wiebetech.com/products/G5Jamplus.php> -- but it isn't
practical.

The PowerMac G5 case is just not designed to accommodate more than two
SATA hard drives. Get an external enclosure.

Bob Harris wrote:
> In article <438e9$433ff8a4$57d1408e$19655@news.versatel.nl> ,
> Robert <krekmek********.com> wrote:
>
>
>>I am thinking of getting myself a nice G5 to replace my trusty G3 B&W.
>>The G3 has modern (= fast) HDs. Can I swap HDs from the G3 to the G5
>>just like that (and boot from them without any hassle) or is it not
>>going to work that easy?
>>
>>Thanks - Robert
>
>
> No. The data cable is totally different.
>
> The G5 uses the new Serial ATA (SATA) disks, and the G3's use the
> traditional Parallel ATA disks.
>
> You can get a PCI ATA controller for your G5 if you like.
>
> Or just get an external Firewire (or USB 2) external enclosure and
> put your G3's disks in the external enclosure and attach them to
> your G5 using Firewire or USB2.
>
> And with the external enclosures you can use them to move huge
> amounts of data between systems, or you can so what many others
> so, use them as detachable backup devices.
>
> Bob Harris
Thanks Bob,

That means a fresh install of Tiger. Right now my G3 uses a PCI ATA
controller, I could swap that one :-)

Robert

Robert <krekmek********.com> wrote:

> That means a fresh install of Tiger. Right now my G3 uses a PCI ATA
> controller, I could swap that one :-)

Not unless that PCI card can also work at 3.3 Volts. See
<http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=86513>.

Then you'd have to figure out where to put the drive and how to get
power to it and how to route the IDE ribbon cable from the card bay to
the drives. It's not impossible -- for example, Wiebetech has an
expensive kit for adding SATA drives
<http://www.wiebetech.com/products/G5Jamplus.php> -- but it isn't
practical.

The PowerMac G5 case is just not designed to accommodate more than two
SATA hard drives. Get an external enclosure.

Robert wrote:

>
> That means a fresh install of Tiger. Right now my G3 uses a PCI ATA
> controller, I could swap that one :-)
>

The G5 will come with Tiger already installed. During the first boot it
asks if you are upgrading from an existing Mac. Say Yes, follow the
instructions to put the G3 in Target disk mode, connect to G5 by
Firewire (your G3 has firewire?) and gives you the choice of what to
transfers among: users + users' data, Applications, Other. Once the
transfer has complete, your G5 will be like the G3 but faster...

I did it last week from my iMac G4 to my lovely new iMac G5 20" :-)

Robert wrote:

>
> That means a fresh install of Tiger. Right now my G3 uses a PCI ATA
> controller, I could swap that one :-)
>

The G5 will come with Tiger already installed. During the first boot it
asks if you are upgrading from an existing Mac. Say Yes, follow the
instructions to put the G3 in Target disk mode, connect to G5 by
Firewire (your G3 has firewire?) and gives you the choice of what to
transfers among: users + users' data, Applications, Other. Once the
transfer has complete, your G5 will be like the G3 but faster...

I did it last week from my iMac G4 to my lovely new iMac G5 20" :-)