Hi all! :)

I bought a 9.1 gig SCSI hard drive for my PowerMac 7300/180, but when I
ran Drive Setup, and cliked on the drive, I got the message -

'Cannot modify a disk with non 512 byte sectors'

and the initialize button is greyed out so I cannot initialize it. Does
this mean that I cannot use this drive? Or is there some way around this?

TIA,


--

rgds,

Pete
-----
http://pedro.spyw.com
The time here is- http://tinyurl.com/6sfgd
'Why don't we ever see the headline "Psychic Wins Lottery"?'

On 4/5/05 8:35 AM, in article vuw4e.1138$5F3.702@news-server.bigpond.net.au,
"pedro" <pedro@nowhere.com> wrote:

>
> Hi all! :)
>
> I bought a 9.1 gig SCSI hard drive for my PowerMac 7300/180, but when I
> ran Drive Setup, and cliked on the drive, I got the message -
>
> 'Cannot modify a disk with non 512 byte sectors'
>
> and the initialize button is greyed out so I cannot initialize it. Does
> this mean that I cannot use this drive? Or is there some way around this?
>
> TIA,
>

Sounds like you've got a drive formatted in a way Mac's don't understand.
Also, it is likely that your drive is not supported by Apple's Drive Setup,
which means you need a third-party solution.

Try looking for LaCie "Silverlining" or FWB's HD Toolkit.
--
Brian Ehni

pedro <pedro@nowhere.com> writes:
>
> I bought a 9.1 gig SCSI hard drive for my PowerMac 7300/180, but when
> I ran Drive Setup, and cliked on the drive, I got the message -
>
> 'Cannot modify a disk with non 512 byte sectors'
>
> and the initialize button is greyed out so I cannot initialize
> it. Does this mean that I cannot use this drive? Or is there some way
> around this?

Apple's Drive Setup utility, when used on SCSI drives, doesn't
generally like to work with third-party drives. Which is annoying,
since it works just fine with third-party IDE drives.

As someone else wrote, a third-party formatting tool should work.

I know of three, all of which are commercial products.

CharisMac's Anubis ($89):
http://www.charismac.com/Products/Anubis

LaCie's SilverLining. Unfortunately, I think this utility can no longer
be purchased as a standalone product. It is bundled with many LaCie
products.

FWB's Hard Disk Toolkit ($89):
http://www.fwb.com/html/hard_disk_toolkit.html

-- David

David C. wrote:

>pedro <pedro@nowhere.com> writes:
>
>
>>I bought a 9.1 gig SCSI hard drive for my PowerMac 7300/180, but when
>>I ran Drive Setup, and cliked on the drive, I got the message -
>>
>>'Cannot modify a disk with non 512 byte sectors'
>>
>>and the initialize button is greyed out so I cannot initialize
>>it. Does this mean that I cannot use this drive? Or is there some way
>>around this?
>>
>>
>
>Apple's Drive Setup utility, when used on SCSI drives, doesn't
>generally like to work with third-party drives. Which is annoying,
>since it works just fine with third-party IDE drives.
>
>As someone else wrote, a third-party formatting tool should work.
>
>I know of three, all of which are commercial products.
>
>CharisMac's Anubis ($89):
> http://www.charismac.com/Products/Anubis
>
>LaCie's SilverLining. Unfortunately, I think this utility can no longer
>be purchased as a standalone product. It is bundled with many LaCie
>products.
>
>FWB's Hard Disk Toolkit ($89):
> http://www.fwb.com/html/hard_disk_toolkit.html
>
>-- David
>
>

I did manage to get some TP programs, but I still cannot get it to
install. Are there some limitations with regards my Mac PM7300 and/or OS
version 8.1 and/or the design or size of some drives perhaps?


--

rgds,

Pete
-----
http://pedro.spyw.com
The time here is- http://tinyurl.com/6sfgd
'My Karma just ran over your Dogma'

Brian Paul Ehni wrote:


>On 4/5/05 8:35 AM, in article vuw4e.1138$5F3.702@news-server.bigpond.net.au,
>"pedro" <pedro@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>>Hi all! :)
>>
>>I bought a 9.1 gig SCSI hard drive for my PowerMac 7300/180, but when I
>>ran Drive Setup, and cliked on the drive, I got the message -
>>
>>'Cannot modify a disk with non 512 byte sectors'
>>
>>and the initialize button is greyed out so I cannot initialize it. Does
>>this mean that I cannot use this drive? Or is there some way around this?
>>
>>TIA,
>>
>>
>>
>
>Sounds like you've got a drive formatted in a way Mac's don't understand.
>Also, it is likely that your drive is not supported by Apple's Drive Setup,
>which means you need a third-party solution.
>
>Try looking for LaCie "Silverlining" or FWB's HD Toolkit.
>
>


I did manage to get some TP programs, but I still cannot get it to
install. Are there some limitations with regards my Mac PM7300 and/or OS
version 8.1 and/or the design or size of some drives perhaps?


--

rgds,

Pete
-----
http://pedro.spyw.com
The time here is- http://tinyurl.com/6sfgd
'Champagne for our real friends and real pain for our sham friends!'

On 4/8/05 10:11 PM, in article
zJH5e.4595$5F3.2376@news-server.bigpond.net.au, "pedro" <pedro@nowhere.com>
wrote:

> I did manage to get some TP programs, but I still cannot get it to
> install. Are there some limitations with regards my Mac PM7300 and/or OS
> version 8.1 and/or the design or size of some drives perhaps?
>


None that I am aware of. SCSI can be very finicky; make sure the jumpers for
your model drive are set properly.

This usually means the drive is terminated and set to ID 0 (zero). There may
be other jumpers on your drive (delay motor start, write protect, etc.) that
need to be set as well.
--
Brian Ehni

pedro wrote:

> David C. wrote:
>
>> pedro <pedro@nowhere.com> writes:
>>
>>
>>> I bought a 9.1 gig SCSI hard drive for my PowerMac 7300/180, but when
>>> I ran Drive Setup, and cliked on the drive, I got the message -
>>>
>>> 'Cannot modify a disk with non 512 byte sectors'
>>>
>>> and the initialize button is greyed out so I cannot initialize
>>> it. Does this mean that I cannot use this drive? Or is there some way
>>> around this?
>>>
>>
>>
>> Apple's Drive Setup utility, when used on SCSI drives, doesn't
>> generally like to work with third-party drives. Which is annoying,
>> since it works just fine with third-party IDE drives.
>>
>> As someone else wrote, a third-party formatting tool should work.
>>
>> I know of three, all of which are commercial products.
>>
>> CharisMac's Anubis ($89):
>> http://www.charismac.com/Products/Anubis
>>
>> LaCie's SilverLining. Unfortunately, I think this utility can no longer
>> be purchased as a standalone product. It is bundled with many LaCie
>> products.
>>
>> FWB's Hard Disk Toolkit ($89):
>> http://www.fwb.com/html/hard_disk_toolkit.html
>>
>> -- David
>>
>>
>
> I did manage to get some TP programs, but I still cannot get it to
> install. Are there some limitations with regards my Mac PM7300 and/or
> OS version 8.1 and/or the design or size of some drives perhaps?
>
>
There are some definite limits, but I can't remember whether it is 1 or
2 gigs. MacTracker should tell you. www.mactracker.com. If you
initialize and then partition with FWB
HD Toolkit, it should work.

On 5/4/05 21:35, in article vuw4e.1138$5F3.702@news-server.bigpond.net.au,
"pedro" <pedro@nowhere.com> wrote:

>
> Hi all! :)
>
> I bought a 9.1 gig SCSI hard drive for my PowerMac 7300/180, but when I
> ran Drive Setup, and cliked on the drive, I got the message -
>
> 'Cannot modify a disk with non 512 byte sectors'
>
> and the initialize button is greyed out so I cannot initialize it. Does
> this mean that I cannot use this drive? Or is there some way around this?
>
> TIA,
>

Have just put a hacked copy of HD_SC in alt.binaries.test2
(subject:..HD_SC) it might help initialize your drive...good luck!

On 4/9/05 1:27 PM, in article BE7E4016.821B%wally@wally.world.net, "Wally"
<wally@wally.world.net> wrote:

>
>
>
> On 5/4/05 21:35, in article vuw4e.1138$5F3.702@news-server.bigpond.net.au,
> "pedro" <pedro@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi all! :)
>>
>> I bought a 9.1 gig SCSI hard drive for my PowerMac 7300/180, but when I
>> ran Drive Setup, and cliked on the drive, I got the message -
>>
>> 'Cannot modify a disk with non 512 byte sectors'
>>
>> and the initialize button is greyed out so I cannot initialize it. Does
>> this mean that I cannot use this drive? Or is there some way around this?
>>
>> TIA,
>>
>
> Have just put a hacked copy of HD_SC in alt.binaries.test2
> (subject:..HD_SC) it might help initialize your drive...good luck!
>


I can't find this group in giganews, only "alt.binaries.test"
--
Brian Ehni

On 4/9/05 1:27 PM, in article BE7E4016.821B%wally@wally.world.net, "Wally"
<wally@wally.world.net> wrote:

>
>
>
> On 5/4/05 21:35, in article vuw4e.1138$5F3.702@news-server.bigpond.net.au,
> "pedro" <pedro@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi all! :)
>>
>> I bought a 9.1 gig SCSI hard drive for my PowerMac 7300/180, but when I
>> ran Drive Setup, and cliked on the drive, I got the message -
>>
>> 'Cannot modify a disk with non 512 byte sectors'
>>
>> and the initialize button is greyed out so I cannot initialize it. Does
>> this mean that I cannot use this drive? Or is there some way around this?
>>
>> TIA,
>>
>
> Have just put a hacked copy of HD_SC in alt.binaries.test2
> (subject:..HD_SC) it might help initialize your drive...good luck!
>


Did find it in MT-NewsWatcher! Thanks!
--
Brian Ehni

On 4/9/05 1:27 PM, in article BE7E4016.821B%wally@wally.world.net, "Wally"
<wally@wally.world.net> wrote:


> Have just put a hacked copy of HD_SC in alt.binaries.test2
> (subject:..HD_SC) it might help initialize your drive...good luck!

Let me be a little more specific.

Entourage 2004 did not find "alt.binaries.test2" in my Comcast-provided
Giganews account, though it did show "alt.binaries.test".

MT-NewsWatcher, using the same account, showed it.
--
Brian Ehni

>> I did manage to get some TP programs, but I still cannot get it to
>> install. Are there some limitations with regards my Mac PM7300 and/or
>> OS version 8.1 and/or the design or size of some drives perhaps?
>>
>>
> There are some definite limits, but I can't remember whether it is 1 or
> 2 gigs. MacTracker should tell you. www.mactracker.com. If you
> initialize and then partition with FWB
> HD Toolkit, it should work.

The limit is 2 Terabytes for that system, larger than any drive yet made.

On 10/4/05 4:23, in article BE7DA3D5.26584%behni@comcast.net, "Brian Paul
Ehni" <behni@comcast.net> wrote:

> On 4/9/05 1:27 PM, in article BE7E4016.821B%wally@wally.world.net, "Wally"
> <wally@wally.world.net> wrote:
>
>
>> Have just put a hacked copy of HD_SC in alt.binaries.test2
>> (subject:..HD_SC) it might help initialize your drive...good luck!
>
> Let me be a little more specific.
>
> Entourage 2004 did not find "alt.binaries.test2" in my Comcast-provided
> Giganews account, though it did show "alt.binaries.test".
>
> MT-NewsWatcher, using the same account, showed it.

That's strange....anyway I just put it in alt.binaries.test as well.
No word from pedro yes So I wonder if it was any help, it did get me out of
trouble years ago on an 840av.

On 4/11/05 1:37 AM, in article BE803C8B.986D%wally@wally.world.net, "Wally"
<wally@wally.world.net> wrote:

>
>
>
> On 10/4/05 4:23, in article BE7DA3D5.26584%behni@comcast.net, "Brian Paul
> Ehni" <behni@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> On 4/9/05 1:27 PM, in article BE7E4016.821B%wally@wally.world.net, "Wally"
>> <wally@wally.world.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Have just put a hacked copy of HD_SC in alt.binaries.test2
>>> (subject:..HD_SC) it might help initialize your drive...good luck!
>>
>> Let me be a little more specific.
>>
>> Entourage 2004 did not find "alt.binaries.test2" in my Comcast-provided
>> Giganews account, though it did show "alt.binaries.test".
>>
>> MT-NewsWatcher, using the same account, showed it.
>
> That's strange....anyway I just put it in alt.binaries.test as well.
> No word from pedro yes So I wonder if it was any help, it did get me out of
> trouble years ago on an 840av.
>


I don't do much support for the classic Operating Systems anymore, but you
can bet I downloaded it in case!
--
Brian Ehni

In article <BE7E4016.821B%wally@wally.world.net>,
Wally <wally@wally.world.net> wrote:

> Have just put a hacked copy of HD_SC in alt.binaries.test2
> (subject:..HD_SC) it might help initialize your drive...good luck!

I am having some similar SCSI problems, and thought this would be
useful. But I cannot see alt.binaries.test(2) anywhere. Any chance of
getting it somewhere else? Eg, e-mail to my junk mail address above and
I will look for it amongst the spam.

Thanks

David