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Old 02-06-2007, 05:38 PM
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Help! € Will a 15" ALUM Keyboard fit a 15" TI Book?


Help! € Will a 15" ALUM Keyboard fit a 15" TI Book?

The keyboard on the 15" PB 1GHZ TiBook SUCKS... it bends too much. It's
all plastic. I do a lot of typing.

The 15" ALBooks are all metal keys.

Will a 15" ALUM Keyboard fit a 15" TI Book?

Can I switch the keybards out so I can get an all metal keyboard on a
15" 1GHZ TiBook?


Thanks!

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Old 02-06-2007, 05:38 PM
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Re: Help! € Will a 15" ALUM Keyboard fit a 15" TI Book?

In article <joe-33ED9F.12320919022005@news.UsenetRevolution.com>,
Joe <joe@joe.puck> wrote:

> Help! € Will a 15" ALUM Keyboard fit a 15" TI Book?


No.

> The keyboard on the 15" PB 1GHZ TiBook SUCKS... it bends too much. It's
> all plastic. I do a lot of typing.


It's not all plastic, nor does it flex nearly as much if you have it
installed correctly than if installed incorrectly.

> The 15" ALBooks are all metal keys.


No, although they look more like metal than plastic at first glance.

> Will a 15" ALUM Keyboard fit a 15" TI Book?
>
> Can I switch the keybards out so I can get an all metal keyboard on a
> 15" 1GHZ TiBook?


No.
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Re: Help! € Will a 15" ALUM Keyboard fit a 15" TI Book?

In article <sehix-89FF8E.11052819022005@news.isp.giganews.com>,
Steve Hix <sehix@NOSPAMspeakeasy.netINVALID> wrote:

> In article <joe-33ED9F.12320919022005@news.UsenetRevolution.com>,
> Joe <joe@joe.puck> wrote:
>
> > Help! € Will a 15" ALUM Keyboard fit a 15" TI Book?

>
> No.
>
> > The keyboard on the 15" PB 1GHZ TiBook SUCKS... it bends too much. It's
> > all plastic. I do a lot of typing.

>
> It's not all plastic, nor does it flex nearly as much if you have it
> installed correctly than if installed incorrectly.
>
> > The 15" ALBooks are all metal keys.

>
> No, although they look more like metal than plastic at first glance.
>
> > Will a 15" ALUM Keyboard fit a 15" TI Book?
> >
> > Can I switch the keybards out so I can get an all metal keyboard on a
> > 15" 1GHZ TiBook?

>
> No.



Is there anyway to put a BETTER keyboard on my TiBook? I just don't like
the keys. Everything else is great.

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Old 02-06-2007, 05:38 PM
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Re: Help! € Will a 15" ALUM Keyboard fit a 15" TI Book?

In article <joe-9E03BB.08240120022005@news.UsenetRevolution.com>,
Joe <joe@joe.puck> wrote:

> In article <sehix-89FF8E.11052819022005@news.isp.giganews.com>,
> Steve Hix <sehix@NOSPAMspeakeasy.netINVALID> wrote:
>
> > In article <joe-33ED9F.12320919022005@news.UsenetRevolution.com>,
> > Joe <joe@joe.puck> wrote:
> >
> > > Help! € Will a 15" ALUM Keyboard fit a 15" TI Book?

> >
> > No.
> >
> > > The keyboard on the 15" PB 1GHZ TiBook SUCKS... it bends too much. It's
> > > all plastic. I do a lot of typing.

> >
> > It's not all plastic, nor does it flex nearly as much if you have it
> > installed correctly than if installed incorrectly.
> >
> > > The 15" ALBooks are all metal keys.

> >
> > No, although they look more like metal than plastic at first glance.
> >
> > > Will a 15" ALUM Keyboard fit a 15" TI Book?
> > >
> > > Can I switch the keybards out so I can get an all metal keyboard on a
> > > 15" 1GHZ TiBook?

> >
> > No.

>
>
> Is there anyway to put a BETTER keyboard on my TiBook? I just don't like
> the keys. Everything else is great.


Nobody's made replacement keyboards for those PowerBooks. You're stuck
with the stocker. Now some people have taken steps to add support to the
back of the keyboard in order to reduce flexibility (I did this on my
Pismo, but don't know how one would go about doing this on a TiBook
specifically), and it's possible that if you used another TiBook
keyboard you would find that a different stock unit would be acceptable.
HTH

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Old 02-06-2007, 05:38 PM
Matthew Russotto
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Re: Help! € Will a 15" ALUM Keyboard fit a 15" TI Book?

In article <joe-33ED9F.12320919022005@news.UsenetRevolution.com>,
Joe <joe@joe.puck> wrote:

>The 15" ALBooks are all metal keys.
>
>Will a 15" ALUM Keyboard fit a 15" TI Book?
>
>Can I switch the keybards out so I can get an all metal keyboard on a
>15" 1GHZ TiBook?


No, for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is the AlBook
keys are plastic also.

The usual reason the TiBook feels like it's bending is that the top
panel has separated from the trim. IIRC, it's just glued on. This
doesn't actually affect the keyboard, it's the wrist rest.
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Old 02-06-2007, 05:38 PM
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Re: Help! € Will a 15" ALUM Keyboard fit a 15" TI Book?

On 2005-02-21 16:43:24 -0800, russotto@grace.speakeasy.net (Matthew
Russotto) said:

> In article <joe-33ED9F.12320919022005@news.UsenetRevolution.com>,
> Joe <joe@joe.puck> wrote:
>
>> The 15" ALBooks are all metal keys.
>>
>> Will a 15" ALUM Keyboard fit a 15" TI Book?
>>
>> Can I switch the keybards out so I can get an all metal keyboard on a
>> 15" 1GHZ TiBook?

>
> No, for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is the AlBook
> keys are plastic also.
>
> The usual reason the TiBook feels like it's bending is that the top
> panel has separated from the trim. IIRC, it's just glued on. This
> doesn't actually affect the keyboard, it's the wrist rest.


Eh? The reason the keyboard feels flimsy is that it's removable -- you
pop it up to access the RAM. The Al models, you can't do this.
There's a more solid foundation underneath.

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Old 02-06-2007, 05:38 PM
Steve Hix
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Re: Help! € Will a 15" ALUM Keyboard fit a 15" TI Book?

In article <2005022117450043658%thanksforno@spamcom>,
Bill Lloyd <thanks.for.no@spam.com> wrote:

> On 2005-02-21 16:43:24 -0800, russotto@grace.speakeasy.net (Matthew
> Russotto) said:
>
> > In article <joe-33ED9F.12320919022005@news.UsenetRevolution.com>,
> > Joe <joe@joe.puck> wrote:
> >
> >> The 15" ALBooks are all metal keys.
> >>
> >> Will a 15" ALUM Keyboard fit a 15" TI Book?
> >>
> >> Can I switch the keybards out so I can get an all metal keyboard on a
> >> 15" 1GHZ TiBook?

> >
> > No, for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is the AlBook
> > keys are plastic also.
> >
> > The usual reason the TiBook feels like it's bending is that the top
> > panel has separated from the trim. IIRC, it's just glued on. This
> > doesn't actually affect the keyboard, it's the wrist rest.

>
> Eh? The reason the keyboard feels flimsy is that it's removable


Ever felt a PowerBook 1400 keyboard? Very solid...it was removable.

Unless the TiBook's keyboard is improperly installed, it should feel
flimsy at all. Neither of them here do. I'm fairly picky about
keyboards, since I have to deal with them all day, every day, being a
tech writer.

> -- you pop it up to access the RAM. The Al models, you can't do this.


More like you don't do it because the DIMM access is from the back. It's
highly unlikely that the keyboard is welded in place; there has to be
some way to remove it for service or repair.
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Old 02-06-2007, 05:39 PM
Brian Paul Ehni
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Re: Help! € Will a 15" ALUM Keyboard fit a 15"TI Book?

On 2/21/05 11:47 PM, in article
sehix-B9BD99.21473021022005@news.isp.giganews.com, "Steve Hix"
<sehix@NOSPAMspeakeasy.netINVALID> wrote:


>
> Ever felt a PowerBook 1400 keyboard? Very solid...it was removable.
>



The 1400 is twice as thick and twice as heavy; I'm sure that Apple could
redesign the Al Book to the same specs, but would you want it then?
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Old 02-06-2007, 05:40 PM
Steve Hix
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Re: Help! € Will a 15" ALUM Keyboard fit a 15" TI Book?

In article <BE4120D5.209BF%behni@comcast.net>,
Brian Paul Ehni <behni@comcast.net> wrote:

> On 2/21/05 11:47 PM, in article
> sehix-B9BD99.21473021022005@news.isp.giganews.com, "Steve Hix"
> <sehix@NOSPAMspeakeasy.netINVALID> wrote:
>
> > Ever felt a PowerBook 1400 keyboard? Very solid...it was removable.

>
>
> The 1400 is twice as thick and twice as heavy; I'm sure that Apple could
> redesign the Al Book to the same specs, but would you want it then?


The point being that a removable keyboard doesn't necessarily result in
a flexy keyboard.
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Old 02-06-2007, 05:40 PM
Brian Paul Ehni
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Re: Help! € Will a 15" ALUM Keyboard fit a 15"TI Book?

On 2/22/05 10:08 PM, in article
sehix-8C7C86.20083622022005@news.isp.giganews.com, "Steve Hix"
<sehix@NOSPAMspeakeasy.netINVALID> wrote:

> In article <BE4120D5.209BF%behni@comcast.net>,
> Brian Paul Ehni <behni@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> On 2/21/05 11:47 PM, in article
>> sehix-B9BD99.21473021022005@news.isp.giganews.com, "Steve Hix"
>> <sehix@NOSPAMspeakeasy.netINVALID> wrote:
>>
>>> Ever felt a PowerBook 1400 keyboard? Very solid...it was removable.

>>
>>
>> The 1400 is twice as thick and twice as heavy; I'm sure that Apple could
>> redesign the Al Book to the same specs, but would you want it then?

>
> The point being that a removable keyboard doesn't necessarily result in
> a flexy keyboard.



The point being that the 1400 had a non flexible, removable keyboard because
it also had a 1/16" aluminum plate it was mounted to! Not only heavy,
compared to the current keyboards, but also thick.
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Old 02-06-2007, 05:43 PM
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Re: Help! € Will a 15" ALUM Keyboard fit a 15" TI Book?

In article <null-4632D0.12350120022005@newsclstr01.news.prodigy.com >,
John Johnson <null@invalid.com> wrote:
>In article <joe-9E03BB.08240120022005@news.UsenetRevolution.com>,
> Joe <joe@joe.puck> wrote:
>
>> In article <sehix-89FF8E.11052819022005@news.isp.giganews.com>,
>> Steve Hix <sehix@NOSPAMspeakeasy.netINVALID> wrote:
>>
>> > In article <joe-33ED9F.12320919022005@news.UsenetRevolution.com>,
>> > Joe <joe@joe.puck> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Help! € Will a 15" ALUM Keyboard fit a 15" TI Book?
>> >
>> > No.
>> >
>> > > The keyboard on the 15" PB 1GHZ TiBook SUCKS... it bends too much. It's
>> > > all plastic. I do a lot of typing.
>> >
>> > It's not all plastic, nor does it flex nearly as much if you have it
>> > installed correctly than if installed incorrectly.
>> >
>> > > The 15" ALBooks are all metal keys.
>> >
>> > No, although they look more like metal than plastic at first glance.
>> >
>> > > Will a 15" ALUM Keyboard fit a 15" TI Book?
>> > >
>> > > Can I switch the keybards out so I can get an all metal keyboard on a
>> > > 15" 1GHZ TiBook?
>> >
>> > No.

>>
>>
>> Is there anyway to put a BETTER keyboard on my TiBook? I just don't like
>> the keys. Everything else is great.

>
>Nobody's made replacement keyboards for those PowerBooks. You're stuck
>with the stocker. Now some people have taken steps to add support to the


Well there was a MacNTouch keyboard for the TiPB, but it seems to no
longer be available.

-Jason

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Old 02-06-2007, 05:44 PM
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Re: Help! € Will a 15" ALUM Keyboard fit a 15" TI Book?

In article <d0aclm$9oc$1@az33news01.freescale.net>,
jasonp@norton.sps.mot.com (Jason Perez) wrote:

> In article <null-4632D0.12350120022005@newsclstr01.news.prodigy.com >,
> John Johnson <null@invalid.com> wrote:
> >In article <joe-9E03BB.08240120022005@news.UsenetRevolution.com>,
> > Joe <joe@joe.puck> wrote:
> >
> >> In article <sehix-89FF8E.11052819022005@news.isp.giganews.com>,
> >> Steve Hix <sehix@NOSPAMspeakeasy.netINVALID> wrote:
> >>
> >> > In article <joe-33ED9F.12320919022005@news.UsenetRevolution.com>,
> >> > Joe <joe@joe.puck> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Help! € Will a 15" ALUM Keyboard fit a 15" TI Book?
> >> >
> >> > No.
> >> >
> >> > > The keyboard on the 15" PB 1GHZ TiBook SUCKS... it bends too much.
> >> > > It's
> >> > > all plastic. I do a lot of typing.
> >> >
> >> > It's not all plastic, nor does it flex nearly as much if you have it
> >> > installed correctly than if installed incorrectly.
> >> >
> >> > > The 15" ALBooks are all metal keys.
> >> >
> >> > No, although they look more like metal than plastic at first glance.
> >> >
> >> > > Will a 15" ALUM Keyboard fit a 15" TI Book?
> >> > >
> >> > > Can I switch the keybards out so I can get an all metal keyboard on a
> >> > > 15" 1GHZ TiBook?
> >> >
> >> > No.
> >>
> >>
> >> Is there anyway to put a BETTER keyboard on my TiBook? I just don't like
> >> the keys. Everything else is great.

> >
> >Nobody's made replacement keyboards for those PowerBooks. You're stuck
> >with the stocker. Now some people have taken steps to add support to the

>
> Well there was a MacNTouch keyboard for the TiPB, but it seems to no
> longer be available.
>
> -Jason


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Old 02-06-2007, 05:45 PM
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Re: Help! € Will a 15" ALUM Keyboard fit a 15" TI Book?

Steve Hix wrote:
> Bill Lloyd <thanks.for.no@spam.com> wrote:


>>-- you pop it up to access the RAM. The Al models, you can't do this.


> More like you don't do it because the DIMM access is from the back. It's
> highly unlikely that the keyboard is welded in place; there has to be
> some way to remove it for service or repair.


It *can* be removed, but there are about twenty screws plus it's glued
down. The only reason to remove it would be to exchange it - you don't
access anything through the keyboard.

Pete
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