Once you complete the "indexing" of your hard drive, how often do you
need to re index? Will running iClean or Cache Out X, or restarting the
computer delete any indexing that has been done? I indexed and after
doing the above went to index again and it seems to be indexing from
scratch (which takes a long time).
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In article <nfpid.1786$Re1.365@trndny05>,
Marshall <notmkatzman@verizon.net> wrote:

>Once you complete the "indexing" of your hard drive, how often do you
>need to re index? Will running iClean or Cache Out X, or restarting the
>computer delete any indexing that has been done? I indexed and after
>doing the above went to index again and it seems to be indexing from
>scratch (which takes a long time).

My dual G5 stays on 24/7. I just looked and the HD was indexed last
Tuesday at 3am. I hadn't requested it, so it must be a chron job of some
kind.

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Ron Parsons

In article <jrp59-6D7D7C.07265604112004@news.verizon.net>, Ron Parsons
<jrp59@gte.net> wrote:

> In article <nfpid.1786$Re1.365@trndny05>,
> Marshall <notmkatzman@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> >Once you complete the "indexing" of your hard drive, how often do you
> >need to re index? Will running iClean or Cache Out X, or restarting the
> >computer delete any indexing that has been done? I indexed and after
> >doing the above went to index again and it seems to be indexing from
> >scratch (which takes a long time).
>
> My dual G5 stays on 24/7. I just looked and the HD was indexed last
> Tuesday at 3am. I hadn't requested it, so it must be a chron job of some
> kind.

On my duallie, I notice that the last "content index" was Oct. 8th,
approx. a month ago. Should I index every so often?

Also, I notice in when I check "get info" on the hard drive in order to
look at the "content index" status, there's what looks like a phone
number (like xxx-xxxx) in the comments and I can't erase it. It's not
my phone number and it has no area code, so what's up wit dat?

As a newcomer to OSX, I'm wondering about the old function "rebuild
desktop." Do I not do that anymore? There's nothing in help about it.

My cat thanks you
"It's _his_ computer -- he lets me use it"

catowned wrote:
> In article <jrp59-6D7D7C.07265604112004@news.verizon.net>, Ron Parsons
> <jrp59@gte.net> wrote:
>
>
>>In article <nfpid.1786$Re1.365@trndny05>,
>> Marshall <notmkatzman@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Once you complete the "indexing" of your hard drive, how often do you
>>>need to re index? Will running iClean or Cache Out X, or restarting the
>>>computer delete any indexing that has been done? I indexed and after
>>>doing the above went to index again and it seems to be indexing from
>>>scratch (which takes a long time).
>>
>>My dual G5 stays on 24/7. I just looked and the HD was indexed last
>>Tuesday at 3am. I hadn't requested it, so it must be a chron job of some
>>kind.
>
>
> On my duallie, I notice that the last "content index" was Oct. 8th,
> approx. a month ago. Should I index every so often?

According to a reply to my post on the Apple forum, indexing is done
automatically when you do a find search.


<Snip>


> As a newcomer to OSX, I'm wondering about the old function "rebuild
> desktop." Do I not do that anymore? There's nothing in help about it.

Just use disk utility to repair disc permissions.
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In article <Tuxid.223$hh1.95@trndny03>, Marshall <notmkatzman@verizon.net>
wrote:

> catowned wrote:
> > In article <jrp59-6D7D7C.07265604112004@news.verizon.net>, Ron Parsons
> > <jrp59@gte.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>In article <nfpid.1786$Re1.365@trndny05>,
> >> Marshall <notmkatzman@verizon.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Once you complete the "indexing" of your hard drive, how often do you
> >>>need to re index? Will running iClean or Cache Out X, or restarting the
> >>>computer delete any indexing that has been done? I indexed and after
> >>>doing the above went to index again and it seems to be indexing from
> >>>scratch (which takes a long time).
> >>
> >>My dual G5 stays on 24/7. I just looked and the HD was indexed last
> >>Tuesday at 3am. I hadn't requested it, so it must be a chron job of some
> >>kind.
> >
> >
> > On my duallie, I notice that the last "content index" was Oct. 8th,
> > approx. a month ago. Should I index every so often?
>
> According to a reply to my post on the Apple forum, indexing is done
> automatically when you do a find search.
>
> <Snip>
>
> Just use disk utility to repair disc permissions.

I used to shut this thing off as it only relates to find-by-content, which I
rarely used.

The preference for indexing can be found in an OS9 Sherlock preferences
somewhere. You can make it index something like once a week on a Saturday
night when you're not going to use it for hours.

> > As a newcomer to OSX, I'm wondering about the old function "rebuild
> > desktop." Do I not do that anymore? There's nothing in help about it.

The desktop database file (the thing that would be rebuilt) only applies to
OS9.

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> > > As a newcomer to OSX, I'm wondering about the old function "rebuild
> > > desktop." Do I not do that anymore? There's nothing in help about it.
>
> The desktop database file (the thing that would be rebuilt) only applies to
> OS9.

So can I just ignore "indexing" or is it required or desirable?

In article <061120042216317425%catowned@denwotac.com>,
catowned <catowned@denwotac.com> wrote:

> > > > As a newcomer to OSX, I'm wondering about the old function "rebuild
> > > > desktop." Do I not do that anymore? There's nothing in help about it.
> >
> > The desktop database file (the thing that would be rebuilt) only applies to
> > OS9.
>
> So can I just ignore "indexing" or is it required or desirable?

No. Indexing and the rebuilding the desktop database are two separate
and unrelated things. Indexing facilitates the Finder's "Find by
content" function.

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Visit the Buffy Body Count at <http://homepage.mac.com/dsample/>

Don Sample wrote:
> In article <061120042216317425%catowned@denwotac.com>,
> catowned <catowned@denwotac.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>>>As a newcomer to OSX, I'm wondering about the old function "rebuild
>>>>>desktop." Do I not do that anymore? There's nothing in help about it.
>>>
>>>The desktop database file (the thing that would be rebuilt) only applies to
>>>OS9.
>>
>>So can I just ignore "indexing" or is it required or desirable?
>
>
> No. Indexing and the rebuilding the desktop database are two separate
> and unrelated things. Indexing facilitates the Finder's "Find by
> content" function.
>
Whenever I restart my computer the get info for my two internal hard
drives shows a "status: not indexed" while my external drives show
"status: indexed" and the index date.

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So, with OSX, will I never again have to worry about rebuilding my
desktop? Or is there something I'm missing in this regard like
reframmajamming the doohickey with control-option-sumpin'? Sorry, but
I feel as if I'm not asking the right question about
indexing/rebuilding.

The files on the HD/desktop are indexed someplace. Is that what
indexing is? Does it tidy up this file? Or does the OS now take care
of that as I go along?

Along the same lines, when I downloaded the auto-update for the OS
(10.3.4 to 10.3.5) I noticed at the end of the update a progress report
appeared on the screen that said my drive was being optimized. What
was that? It took a couple of minutes. Was that a defrag or what? In
order to do this, do they upload some of my data to their server -- and
what do they do with the info? Is it a security risk?

I have since turned off the auto update feature. So now I get prompts
to update this and that, and I refuse because I don't know what's going
on, meaning information exchanged. I wonder if it's an all giving
process or if there is some "get" for them off my HD, like some people
get with cookies and javascripts.

Might be worth knowing for those with business, financial or other
sensitive information on their HD. Is there a quid pro quo on the
update?


In article
<dsample-6D033F.01290307112004@news-central.dca.giganews.com>, Don
Sample <dsample@synapse.net> wrote:

> In article <061120042216317425%catowned@denwotac.com>,
> catowned <catowned@denwotac.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > As a newcomer to OSX, I'm wondering about the old function "rebuild
> > > > > desktop." Do I not do that anymore? There's nothing in help about
> > > > > it.
> > >
> > > The desktop database file (the thing that would be rebuilt) only applies
> > > to
> > > OS9.
> >
> > So can I just ignore "indexing" or is it required or desirable?
>
> No. Indexing and the rebuilding the desktop database are two separate
> and unrelated things. Indexing facilitates the Finder's "Find by
> content" function.

In article <grpjd.3683$EE3.3537@trndny09>, Marshall <notmkatzman@verizon.net>
wrote:

> >>So can I just ignore "indexing" or is it required or desirable?
> >
> >
> > No. Indexing and the rebuilding the desktop database are two separate
> > and unrelated things. Indexing facilitates the Finder's "Find by
> > content" function.

Thus, if you don't need to "Find by Content" then you don't need to index a
drive.

> Whenever I restart my computer the get info for my two internal hard
> drives shows a "status: not indexed" while my external drives show
> "status: indexed" and the index date.

The time required for indexing depends on the number and type of files held on
them. It may be that no index operation ever succeeded on this drive.


--
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Macintosh Programming and Support in Central Florida
www.VirtualOutpost.com
ws_usenet@virtualoutpost.com - include the keyPhrase "WhoYaGonnaCall?"
in the body or subject of the message to get past the spam filters.
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but in practice there is. -unknown
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Walt Sellers wrote:
> In article <grpjd.3683$EE3.3537@trndny09>, Marshall <notmkatzman@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>>>So can I just ignore "indexing" or is it required or desirable?
>>>
>>>
>>>No. Indexing and the rebuilding the desktop database are two separate
>>>and unrelated things. Indexing facilitates the Finder's "Find by
>>>content" function.
>
>
> Thus, if you don't need to "Find by Content" then you don't need to index a
> drive.
>
>
>>Whenever I restart my computer the get info for my two internal hard
>>drives shows a "status: not indexed" while my external drives show
>>"status: indexed" and the index date.
>
>
> The time required for indexing depends on the number and type of files held on
> them. It may be that no index operation ever succeeded on this drive.


Until I shut down or logged out it showed a last indexed date. The
indexing took about 24 hours. One 80 g HD the other 120 gig.

I then searched for a word in a document and it found it pretty quickly.

After log out or restart it no longer appeared to be indexed. My
external drives remained indexed.The same search for a word in a
document worked quickly on the external drives but forever (I gave up
after 3 minutes) on the internal drives.



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