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Old 02-06-2007, 05:11 PM
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Networking Win2K with OSX.3

I received my iBook the other day and I absolutely love it. The only
thing I am having trouble with is networking it so it can access the
files on my Win2k desktop.

The iBook is a G4 (OSX10.3) with airport extreme, but right now I have
it connected with ethernet cable into a hub. With this setup, I can
access the Internet fine with either computer, but I cannot see the
Win2K machine from the iBook OR vice versa.
This is the error I get:
"The Finder cannot complete the operation because some data in
'smb://gatsby/docs' could not be read or written. (Error code -36)."
(Gatsby being the name of the computer-- they are both also on the
same workgroup, WESTEGG).

The iBook simply does not show up when I browse the network in Win2K.
I also tried specifying the local network IP rather than the computer
name, but I cannot for the life of me find it when I do an ipconfig
/all. I tried setting one manually in the TCP/IP settings but if I do
this, I cannot get on the Internet using the desktop (my ISP uses
DHCP).

I've created a Windows user with the same name and password as my OSX
logon, and I've enabled the appropriate options in the Share config on
OSX.

Does anybody have any ideas? I'd really appreciate the help.

dave
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Re: Networking Win2K with OSX.3

In article <aZi3d.28108$t61.3851@clgrps13>,
synecdoche <drysda0@nospamunbc.ca> wrote:

> I received my iBook the other day and I absolutely love it. The only
> thing I am having trouble with is networking it so it can access the
> files on my Win2k desktop.
>
> The iBook is a G4 (OSX10.3) with airport extreme, but right now I have
> it connected with ethernet cable into a hub. With this setup, I can
> access the Internet fine with either computer, but I cannot see the
> Win2K machine from the iBook OR vice versa.
> This is the error I get:
> "The Finder cannot complete the operation because some data in
> 'smb://gatsby/docs' could not be read or written. (Error code -36)."
> (Gatsby being the name of the computer-- they are both also on the
> same workgroup, WESTEGG).
>
> The iBook simply does not show up when I browse the network in Win2K.
> I also tried specifying the local network IP rather than the computer
> name, but I cannot for the life of me find it when I do an ipconfig
> /all. I tried setting one manually in the TCP/IP settings but if I do
> this, I cannot get on the Internet using the desktop (my ISP uses
> DHCP).
>
> I've created a Windows user with the same name and password as my OSX
> logon, and I've enabled the appropriate options in the Share config on
> OSX.
>
> Does anybody have any ideas? I'd really appreciate the help.
>
> dave


1) Have you tried PINGing the Mac from the PC or the PC from the Mac?
(On either system, you can run PING from the command line).

2) Sometimes, I can't connect to my Mac from my WinXP system... however,
by turning on FTP sharing on the Mac, I can almost always connect to it
from the PC that way. (Try going to ftp://your.mac's.ip.address/ )

3) IPCONFIG /ALL shows lots of information about the local computer that
it's run on, but doesn't show any information about other computers on
the network... it will not help you find the iBook from the W2K system.

4) On your Mac, do you have WINDOWS FILE SHARING turned on? Have you
typed your IP address on the Windows system using back-slashes rather
than Unix-style forward-slashes? Including your home folder name-- as it
says in Sharing dialogue box when you click on the Windows Sharing item?

5) On your Mac, have you tried using the Finder's Go/Connect to Server
dialogue, typing in your PC's IP address rather than the computer name?
For instance:

smb://192.168.1.1/docs

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Re: Networking Win2K with OSX.3

Alan Zisman wrote:
> In article <aZi3d.28108$t61.3851@clgrps13>,
> synecdoche <drysda0@nospamunbc.ca> wrote:
>
>
>>I received my iBook the other day and I absolutely love it. The only
>>thing I am having trouble with is networking it so it can access the
>>files on my Win2k desktop.

..
>>
>>dave

>
>
> 1) Have you tried PINGing the Mac from the PC or the PC from the Mac?
> (On either system, you can run PING from the command line).


I've tried but I think part of my problem is that I cannot figure out
what the IP for the Win2K box is. There is the IP that the ISP gives me
but somebody on another forum told me that this is not the one to use
(since it changes every time I log on to the net)

>
> 2) Sometimes, I can't connect to my Mac from my WinXP system... however,
> by turning on FTP sharing on the Mac, I can almost always connect to it
> from the PC that way. (Try going to ftp://your.mac's.ip.address/ )


See above. :) I don't know the iBook's IP addie either. :(
>
> 3) IPCONFIG /ALL shows lots of information about the local computer that
> it's run on, but doesn't show any information about other computers on
> the network... it will not help you find the iBook from the W2K system.


Yep, I knew that-- I was trying it on the PC to establish what its IP
was so I could access it from the iBook.
>
> 4) On your Mac, do you have WINDOWS FILE SHARING turned on? Have you
> typed your IP address on the Windows system using back-slashes rather
> than Unix-style forward-slashes? Including your home folder name-- as it
> says in Sharing dialogue box when you click on the Windows Sharing item?


Windows File Sharing is on. I've tried using the slashes that are used
in the Mac online support pages (and your example below), and have
included the sharing name of the folder I want (docs, in this case).
>
> 5) On your Mac, have you tried using the Finder's Go/Connect to Server
> dialogue, typing in your PC's IP address rather than the computer name?
> For instance:
>
> smb://192.168.1.1/docs


Yes, but as I said, I am not certain of either computer's local IP
address. I think that must be the key to all of this, and I am getting
the sneaking suspicion it is going to be something dreadfully obvious
that I will kick myself for missing. Thanks for the help!

dave

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Re: Networking Win2K with OSX.3

In article <Zos3d.87342$XP3.75260@edtnps84>,
synecdoche <drysda0@nospamunbc.ca> wrote:

> Alan Zisman wrote:
> > In article <aZi3d.28108$t61.3851@clgrps13>,
> > synecdoche <drysda0@nospamunbc.ca> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>I received my iBook the other day and I absolutely love it. The only
> >>thing I am having trouble with is networking it so it can access the
> >>files on my Win2k desktop.

> .
> >>
> >>dave

> >
> >
> > 1) Have you tried PINGing the Mac from the PC or the PC from the Mac?
> > (On either system, you can run PING from the command line).

>
> I've tried but I think part of my problem is that I cannot figure out
> what the IP for the Win2K box is. There is the IP that the ISP gives me
> but somebody on another forum told me that this is not the one to use
> (since it changes every time I log on to the net)
>

IPCONFIG reports the PC's IP address... the address your ISP gives you
is the address of your router (I assume you have a broadband modem
(cable or DSL) connected to a router which then connects each computer--
in that case, the router assigns IP addresses to each computer. If
you're set up differently, let us know!)
> >
> > 2) Sometimes, I can't connect to my Mac from my WinXP system... however,
> > by turning on FTP sharing on the Mac, I can almost always connect to it
> > from the PC that way. (Try going to ftp://your.mac's.ip.address/ )

>
> See above. :) I don't know the iBook's IP addie either. :(


It's the address reported in the Sharing system preference when, for
instance, you click on the Windows Sharing item.

> >
> > 3) IPCONFIG /ALL shows lots of information about the local computer that
> > it's run on, but doesn't show any information about other computers on
> > the network... it will not help you find the iBook from the W2K system.

>
> Yep, I knew that-- I was trying it on the PC to establish what its IP
> was so I could access it from the iBook.


And that's the right thing to do.

> >
> > 4) On your Mac, do you have WINDOWS FILE SHARING turned on? Have you
> > typed your IP address on the Windows system using back-slashes rather
> > than Unix-style forward-slashes? Including your home folder name-- as it
> > says in Sharing dialogue box when you click on the Windows Sharing item?

>
> Windows File Sharing is on. I've tried using the slashes that are used
> in the Mac online support pages (and your example below), and have
> included the sharing name of the folder I want (docs, in this case).
> >
> > 5) On your Mac, have you tried using the Finder's Go/Connect to Server
> > dialogue, typing in your PC's IP address rather than the computer name?
> > For instance:
> >
> > smb://192.168.1.1/docs

>
> Yes, but as I said, I am not certain of either computer's local IP
> address. I think that must be the key to all of this, and I am getting
> the sneaking suspicion it is going to be something dreadfully obvious
> that I will kick myself for missing. Thanks for the help!
>
> dave


Best of luck!

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Re: Networking Win2K with OSX.3

Alan Zisman wrote:
> In article <Zos3d.87342$XP3.75260@edtnps84>,
> synecdoche <drysda0@nospamunbc.ca> wrote:
>
>
>>Alan Zisman wrote:
>>
>>>In article <aZi3d.28108$t61.3851@clgrps13>,
>>> synecdoche <drysda0@nospamunbc.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>I received my iBook the other day and I absolutely love it. The only
>>>>thing I am having trouble with is networking it so it can access the
>>>>files on my Win2k desktop.

>>
>>.
>>
>>>>dave
>>>
>>>
>>>1) Have you tried PINGing the Mac from the PC or the PC from the Mac?
>>>(On either system, you can run PING from the command line).

>>
>>I've tried but I think part of my problem is that I cannot figure out
>>what the IP for the Win2K box is. There is the IP that the ISP gives me
>>but somebody on another forum told me that this is not the one to use
>>(since it changes every time I log on to the net)
>>

>
> IPCONFIG reports the PC's IP address... the address your ISP gives you
> is the address of your router (I assume you have a broadband modem
> (cable or DSL) connected to a router which then connects each computer--
> in that case, the router assigns IP addresses to each computer. If
> you're set up differently, let us know!)
>
>>>2) Sometimes, I can't connect to my Mac from my WinXP system... however,
>>>by turning on FTP sharing on the Mac, I can almost always connect to it
>>>from the PC that way. (Try going to ftp://your.mac's.ip.address/ )

>>
>>See above. :) I don't know the iBook's IP addie either. :(

>
>
> It's the address reported in the Sharing system preference when, for
> instance, you click on the Windows Sharing item.
>


Well, I bought a router today (as opposed to the hub I had) and
everything seems to be ducky now. Thanks for the help.

Dave
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Re: Networking Win2K with OSX.3

In article <Y5K3d.96405$XP3.3020@edtnps84>,
synecdoche <drysda0@nospamunbc.ca> wrote:

> Alan Zisman wrote:
> > In article <Zos3d.87342$XP3.75260@edtnps84>,
> > synecdoche <drysda0@nospamunbc.ca> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Alan Zisman wrote:
> >>


> >>>>I received my iBook the other day and I absolutely love it. The only
> >>>>thing I am having trouble with is networking it so it can access the
> >>>>files on my Win2k desktop.
> >>


> >>>
> >>>1) Have you tried PINGing the Mac from the PC or the PC from the Mac?
> >>>(On either system, you can run PING from the command line).
> >>
> >>I've tried but I think part of my problem is that I cannot figure out
> >>what the IP for the Win2K box is. There is the IP that the ISP gives me
> >>but somebody on another forum told me that this is not the one to use
> >>(since it changes every time I log on to the net)
> >>

> >
> > IPCONFIG reports the PC's IP address... the address your ISP gives you
> > is the address of your router (I assume you have a broadband modem
> > (cable or DSL) connected to a router which then connects each computer--
> > in that case, the router assigns IP addresses to each computer. If
> > you're set up differently, let us know!)
> >
> >>>2) Sometimes, I can't connect to my Mac from my WinXP system... however,
> >>>by turning on FTP sharing on the Mac, I can almost always connect to it
> >>>from the PC that way. (Try going to ftp://your.mac's.ip.address/ )
> >>
> >>See above. :) I don't know the iBook's IP addie either. :(

> >
> >
> > It's the address reported in the Sharing system preference when, for
> > instance, you click on the Windows Sharing item.
> >

>
> Well, I bought a router today (as opposed to the hub I had) and
> everything seems to be ducky now. Thanks for the help.
>
> Dave


Ah... yes, that WOULD make a difference!

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