Hi guys. Can anyone help me with a connectivity problem? I'm not new to
the Mac but I suppose you would have to say I'm new to OS X.

If I connect two Macs with an ethernet cable then look for one on the
other, I can't find it. I have File sharing turned on, I choose
Go/Connect to Server... then I Browse. Nothing. Using 10.34 on both
machines. What am I doing wrong?

It gets worse. I occasionally need to connect to a PC. Somehow, i have
_never_ been successful at this, even back under OS 9. But with X it
should be easy, right?

Probably I'm making the same silly mistake in both cases.

Naturally I've browsed Help extensively. No joy.

I'm right about my Ethernet cable, yes? My two G4 Titaniums are smart
enough to configure themselves automatically for a straight-through or
a cross-over cable. So it's not a cable problem. (Same cable works fine
connecting me via a DSL modem to the net). The cable also can't be the
problem when trying to connect to a PC because we've tried both
crossover and straight-through cables.

In the Network/Network Port Configurations set-up, Ethernet is turned
on. In the sharing/Services set-up, Personal File Sharing is on. In the
Sharing/Firewall section, the firewall is turned on but so is "Allow
Personal file Sharing"

Thoughts please?

GoodGuy wrote:

> Hi guys. Can anyone help me with a connectivity problem? I'm not new to
> the Mac but I suppose you would have to say I'm new to OS X.
>
> If I connect two Macs with an ethernet cable then look for one on the
> other, I can't find it. I have File sharing turned on, I choose
> Go/Connect to Server... then I Browse. Nothing. Using 10.34 on both
> machines. What am I doing wrong?

what netmask are you using? 10.34.1.2 and 10.34.2.2 won't see each other if you
have a netmask of 255.255.255.0. You'd have to use 255.255.0.0.

>
> It gets worse. I occasionally need to connect to a PC. Somehow, i have
> _never_ been successful at this, even back under OS 9. But with X it
> should be easy, right?
>
> Probably I'm making the same silly mistake in both cases.
>
> Naturally I've browsed Help extensively. No joy.
>
> I'm right about my Ethernet cable, yes? My two G4 Titaniums are smart
> enough to configure themselves automatically for a straight-through or
> a cross-over cable. So it's not a cable problem. (Same cable works fine
> connecting me via a DSL modem to the net). The cable also can't be the
> problem when trying to connect to a PC because we've tried both
> crossover and straight-through cables.

Gigabit handles cross over automatically. (assuming your machines are gigabit).
If not, they won't do it.

>
> In the Network/Network Port Configurations set-up, Ethernet is turned
> on. In the sharing/Services set-up, Personal File Sharing is on. In the
> Sharing/Firewall section, the firewall is turned on but so is "Allow
> Personal file Sharing"
>
> Thoughts please?


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In article <160820041012554598%goodguy@adfg.com>,
GoodGuy <goodguy@adfg.com> wrote:

> Hi guys. Can anyone help me with a connectivity problem? I'm not new to
> the Mac but I suppose you would have to say I'm new to OS X.
>
> If I connect two Macs with an ethernet cable then look for one on the
> other, I can't find it. I have File sharing turned on, I choose
> Go/Connect to Server... then I Browse. Nothing. Using 10.34 on both
> machines. What am I doing wrong?
>
> It gets worse. I occasionally need to connect to a PC. Somehow, i have
> _never_ been successful at this, even back under OS 9. But with X it
> should be easy, right?
>
> Probably I'm making the same silly mistake in both cases.
>
> Naturally I've browsed Help extensively. No joy.
>
> I'm right about my Ethernet cable, yes? My two G4 Titaniums are smart
> enough to configure themselves automatically for a straight-through or
> a cross-over cable. So it's not a cable problem. (Same cable works fine
> connecting me via a DSL modem to the net). The cable also can't be the
> problem when trying to connect to a PC because we've tried both
> crossover and straight-through cables.
>
> In the Network/Network Port Configurations set-up, Ethernet is turned
> on. In the sharing/Services set-up, Personal File Sharing is on. In the
> Sharing/Firewall section, the firewall is turned on but so is "Allow
> Personal file Sharing"
>
> Thoughts please?

Sounds like you've done everything right... have you checked in the
Finder? By default, there should be a Network icon in the left-hand
pane... and when you double-click it, you should see a list of
browseable servers.

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GoodGuy <goodguy@adfg.com> wrote in message news:<160820041012554598%goodguy@adfg.com>...
> Hi guys. Can anyone help me with a connectivity problem? I'm not new to
> the Mac but I suppose you would have to say I'm new to OS X.
>
> If I connect two Macs with an ethernet cable then look for one on the
> other, I can't find it. I have File sharing turned on, I choose
> Go/Connect to Server... then I Browse. Nothing. Using 10.34 on both
> machines. What am I doing wrong?
>
> It gets worse. I occasionally need to connect to a PC. Somehow, i have
> _never_ been successful at this, even back under OS 9. But with X it
> should be easy, right?
>
> Probably I'm making the same silly mistake in both cases.
>
> Naturally I've browsed Help extensively. No joy.
>
> I'm right about my Ethernet cable, yes? My two G4 Titaniums are smart
> enough to configure themselves automatically for a straight-through or
> a cross-over cable. So it's not a cable problem. (Same cable works fine
> connecting me via a DSL modem to the net). The cable also can't be the
> problem when trying to connect to a PC because we've tried both
> crossover and straight-through cables.
>
> In the Network/Network Port Configurations set-up, Ethernet is turned
> on. In the sharing/Services set-up, Personal File Sharing is on. In the
> Sharing/Firewall section, the firewall is turned on but so is "Allow
> Personal file Sharing"
>
> Thoughts please?

Try this, go to GO in Finder and Connect to server. In the server
address window type: afp://<Machine Name>.local Where Machine Name is
the Computer Name found under Sharing in System Preferences. This
should find the other box and let select a user account to share.

--jim

GoodGuy <goodguy@adfg.com> writes:
>
> If I connect two Macs with an ethernet cable then look for one on
> the other, I can't find it. I have File sharing turned on, I choose
> Go/Connect to Server... then I Browse. Nothing. Using 10.34 on both
> machines. What am I doing wrong?

Do you have carrier on the ethernet? Since you don't have a hub,
there are no lights you can look at, but you can check from
software. Go to a terminal window on each computer and type
"ifconfig en0" and look at the output. It should look something like
this:

en0: flags=8863<UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULT ICAST> mtu 1500
inet6 fe80::203:93ff:fe77:ab98 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4
inet 192.168.1.5 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255
ether 00:03:93:77:ab:98
media: autoselect (100baseTX <half-duplex>) status: active
supported media: none autoselect 10baseT/UTP <half-duplex>
10baseT/UTP <full-duplex> 10baseT/UTP <full-duplex,hw-loopback> 100baseTX
<half-duplex> 100baseTX <full-duplex> 100baseTX <full-duplex,hw-loopback>
1000baseTX <full-duplex> 1000baseTX <full-duplex,hw-loopback> 1000baseTX
<full-duplex,flow-control> 1000baseTX <full-duplex,flow-control,hw-loopback>

(I've word-wrapped the above to 80 columns. The last few rows are
all on one long line).

Anyway, note the line that begins with the keyword "media:". Note
that the status is "active".

If your Ethernet doesn't have carrier, the status will say "inactive".

If you don't have carrier, then your cable is bad - try another. I
recommend that you use a crossover cable to connect two computers
without a hub. Although the ports are supposed to auto-detect the
right polarity, auto-detect chipset don't always get it right.

- - -

If you have carrier, please post the output from running "ifconfig
en0" on each of the two machines when they're connected together.
This way we'll be able to see how the ports are configured. You
might be using address/subnet values that are incomaptible with each
other.

> It gets worse. I occasionally need to connect to a PC. Somehow, i
> have _never_ been successful at this, even back under OS 9. But with
> X it should be easy, right?

It's easy if you have it configured right. But right now, I know
nothing about your configuration, so it's hard to say what's really
going on.

> I'm right about my Ethernet cable, yes? My two G4 Titaniums are
> smart enough to configure themselves automatically for a
> straight-through or a cross-over cable. So it's not a cable
> problem. (Same cable works fine connecting me via a DSL modem to the
> net). The cable also can't be the problem when trying to connect to
> a PC because we've tried both crossover and straight-through cables.

They should be smart enough to do the right thing with either
straight or crossover cables. But it could be that both cables
are bad, which is why I want you to first check to see if you have
carrier on the port.

> In the Network/Network Port Configurations set-up, Ethernet is
> turned on. In the sharing/Services set-up, Personal File Sharing is
> on. In the Sharing/Firewall section, the firewall is turned on but
> so is "Allow Personal file Sharing"

How about your TCP/IP configuration for each computer? Do they both
have addresses? In the same subnet? The ifconfig output I requested
above should answer these questions.

-- David