I often see .ppt or PowerPoint files on the net, and
have downloaded a few. I know nothing about PowerPoint,
or whether they can be read without special software.
Can they be read on a MAC? I hope so, since thanks to
MS marketing, I fear we may see more of this.

I just read that some university is going to require all
profs to give lectures and seminars in powerpoint, for
the sake of uniformity I guess.

I argued that there was probably free software available.

Anyway, I didn't try AppleWorks, but don't know of any
translaters for ppt files.

Any comments or suggestions?

Van

PowerPoint 98 Viewer for Macintosh

The Microsoft PowerPoint 98 Viewer allows people who use Microsoft
PowerPoint to share their presentations with users who do not have
PowerPoint.


http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

Van Jacques wrote:
> I often see .ppt or PowerPoint files on the net, and
> have downloaded a few. I know nothing about PowerPoint,
> or whether they can be read without special software.
> Can they be read on a MAC? I hope so, since thanks to
> MS marketing, I fear we may see more of this.
>
> I just read that some university is going to require all
> profs to give lectures and seminars in powerpoint, for
> the sake of uniformity I guess.
>
> I argued that there was probably free software available.
>
> Anyway, I didn't try AppleWorks, but don't know of any
> translaters for ppt files.
>
> Any comments or suggestions?
>
> Van

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On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 12:52:33 +0100, Van Jacques wrote
(in article <66ea3ad9.0408030352.be5f574@posting.google.com> ):

> I often see .ppt or PowerPoint files on the net, and
> have downloaded a few. I know nothing about PowerPoint,
> or whether they can be read without special software.

They need special software to read them - but PowerPoint viewer is free!
However, it will only READ the files ...not edit them. I have had to use it
on a PC because the mac software is better, sorry "newer" than the Windows
version we have at school.

> I just read that some university is going to require all
> profs to give lectures and seminars in powerpoint, for
> the sake of uniformity I guess.


But do you need to create PPT files? If so there will be a cost involved!
They can be created in Office for the mac, of course, and there are discounts
for educational users. As a bonus, the app is written by the msc unit at MS
so it isn't as bad as you would expect.

There is also Keynote (our very own Apple app) which, according to the data
on the web site, is capable of writing and reading ppts..

Not free, but cheap ($50) is thinkfree office from thinkfree.com

You could have a look at openoffice (from openoffice.org) which is free.
However at first glance it needs extra stuff to get it to work.

None of these come with any recommendations from me - so feel free to use or
not ... your choice! Me? Office v.X, but I'm not updating to the latest
version ... COST!

>
> Anyway, I didn't try AppleWorks, but don't know of any
> translaters for ppt files.

I doubt it. Apple doesn't mention anything other than Word/Excel

hth

--
M

In article <66ea3ad9.0408030352.be5f574@posting.google.com> , calccurve-test23******.com (Van Jacques) writes:
>I often see .ppt or PowerPoint files on the net, and
>have downloaded a few. I know nothing about PowerPoint,
>or whether they can be read without special software.
>Can they be read on a MAC? I hope so, since thanks to
>MS marketing, I fear we may see more of this.
>
>I just read that some university is going to require all
>profs to give lectures and seminars in powerpoint, for
>the sake of uniformity I guess.

Oh, for gawd sake. This mind numbing PPT stupidity has made its way into
institutions of higher education.

I loathe presentations with PPT. It is difficult, if not impossible, to
put technical presentations together that are worth a ****. Unless your
presentation is to a group of marketriod *numbnuts* where more than three
bullet items per view will cause them great headache, there is nothing of
benefit to putting something into PPT.

I was asked to make a professional presentation for a group about a year
ago. They sent me an email and asked that I provide them with PPT slides
before I flew to the destination. I wrote back and said that they asked
for a "professional" presentation. :)


>I argued that there was probably free software available.
>
>Anyway, I didn't try AppleWorks, but don't know of any
>translaters for ppt files.
>
>Any comments or suggestions?

I have Keynote. It reads in PPT slides. It also seems to have better
presentation formats than what I have seen in any of the mind numbing PPT
presentations I've been misfortunate enough to have to sit through.

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Well said!

VAXman- wrote:
> In article <66ea3ad9.0408030352.be5f574@posting.google.com> , calccurve-test23******.com (Van Jacques) writes:
>
>>I often see .ppt or PowerPoint files on the net, and
>>have downloaded a few. I know nothing about PowerPoint,
>>or whether they can be read without special software.
>>Can they be read on a MAC? I hope so, since thanks to
>>MS marketing, I fear we may see more of this.
>>
>>I just read that some university is going to require all
>>profs to give lectures and seminars in powerpoint, for
>>the sake of uniformity I guess.
>
>
> Oh, for gawd sake. This mind numbing PPT stupidity has made its way into
> institutions of higher education.
>
> I loathe presentations with PPT. It is difficult, if not impossible, to
> put technical presentations together that are worth a ****. Unless your
> presentation is to a group of marketriod *numbnuts* where more than three
> bullet items per view will cause them great headache, there is nothing of
> benefit to putting something into PPT.
>
> I was asked to make a professional presentation for a group about a year
> ago. They sent me an email and asked that I provide them with PPT slides
> before I flew to the destination. I wrote back and said that they asked
> for a "professional" presentation. :)
>
>
>
>>I argued that there was probably free software available.
>>
>>Anyway, I didn't try AppleWorks, but don't know of any
>>translaters for ppt files.
>>
>>Any comments or suggestions?
>
>
> I have Keynote. It reads in PPT slides. It also seems to have better
> presentation formats than what I have seen in any of the mind numbing PPT
> presentations I've been misfortunate enough to have to sit through.
>

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In article <00A35CC5.3486E167@SendSpamHere.ORG>,
VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:

> In article <66ea3ad9.0408030352.be5f574@posting.google.com> ,
> calccurve-test23******.com (Van Jacques) writes:
> >I often see .ppt or PowerPoint files on the net, and
> >have downloaded a few. I know nothing about PowerPoint,
> >or whether they can be read without special software.
> >Can they be read on a MAC? I hope so, since thanks to
> >MS marketing, I fear we may see more of this.
> >
> >I just read that some university is going to require all
> >profs to give lectures and seminars in powerpoint, for
> >the sake of uniformity I guess.
>
> Oh, for gawd sake. This mind numbing PPT stupidity has made its way into
> institutions of higher education.
>
> I loathe presentations with PPT. It is difficult, if not impossible, to
> put technical presentations together that are worth a ****. Unless your
> presentation is to a group of marketriod *numbnuts* where more than three
> bullet items per view will cause them great headache, there is nothing of
> benefit to putting something into PPT.
>
> I was asked to make a professional presentation for a group about a year
> ago. They sent me an email and asked that I provide them with PPT slides
> before I flew to the destination. I wrote back and said that they asked
> for a "professional" presentation. :)
>
>
> >I argued that there was probably free software available.
> >
> >Anyway, I didn't try AppleWorks, but don't know of any
> >translaters for ppt files.
> >
> >Any comments or suggestions?
>
> I have Keynote. It reads in PPT slides. It also seems to have better
> presentation formats than what I have seen in any of the mind numbing PPT
> presentations I've been misfortunate enough to have to sit through.
>
> --
> http://www.ProvN.com for the *best* OpenVMS system security
> solutions that others only claim to be.
> --
> Cyber-Terrorism (si'-ber tayr'-or-iz-em) n.:
> The release of, the sale of, or the use of any Micro$oft software product!

Appleworks provides excellent capability and flexibility for designing
presentations, using a drawing document, but there are no translators
that I know of for going between Appleworks drawing and PowerPoint. If
you use Appleworks to design a presentation, you would need Appleworks
on the machine to make the presentation.

Bill

calccurve-test23******.com (Van Jacques) writes:
>
> I often see .ppt or PowerPoint files on the net, and have downloaded
> a few. I know nothing about PowerPoint, or whether they can be read
> without special software. Can they be read on a MAC? I hope so,
> since thanks to MS marketing, I fear we may see more of this.

How about using the Mac version of PowerPoint?

You can't legally get the Windows version for free either, so don't
complain about the cost.

> I just read that some university is going to require all profs to
> give lectures and seminars in powerpoint, for the sake of uniformity
> I guess.

A dumb idea, but universities are full of dumb ideas.

Get the Mac version of PowerPoint if this is a requirement you can't
get around.

-- David

In article <m23c2y3c4v.fsf@qqqq.invalid>, shamino@techie.com (David C.) wrote:

> calccurve-test23******.com (Van Jacques) writes:
> >
> > I often see .ppt or PowerPoint files on the net, and have downloaded
> > a few. I know nothing about PowerPoint, or whether they can be read
> > without special software. Can they be read on a MAC? I hope so,
> > since thanks to MS marketing, I fear we may see more of this.
>
> How about using the Mac version of PowerPoint?
>
> You can't legally get the Windows version for free either, so don't
> complain about the cost.
>
> > I just read that some university is going to require all profs to
> > give lectures and seminars in powerpoint, for the sake of uniformity
> > I guess.
>
> A dumb idea, but universities are full of dumb ideas.
>
> Get the Mac version of PowerPoint if this is a requirement you can't
> get around.
>
> -- David

Free PowerPoint Viewer Mac

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...209c-4a58-b283
-23e84b616477&displaylang=en

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On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 21:51:28 +0100, David C. wrote
(in article <m23c2y3c4v.fsf@qqqq.invalid>):

> calccurve-test23******.com (Van Jacques) writes:
>>
>> I often see .ppt or PowerPoint files on the net, and have downloaded
>> a few. I know nothing about PowerPoint, or whether they can be read
>> without special software. Can they be read on a MAC? I hope so,
>> since thanks to MS marketing, I fear we may see more of this.
>
> How about using the Mac version of PowerPoint?
>
> You can't legally get the Windows version for free either, so don't
> complain about the cost.
>
>> I just read that some university is going to require all profs to
>> give lectures and seminars in powerpoint, for the sake of uniformity
>> I guess.
>
> A dumb idea, but universities are full of dumb ideas.
>
> Get the Mac version of PowerPoint if this is a requirement you can't
> get around.
>

.... unless you get Keynote from Apple!

markg5@SPAMBLOCKmyrealbox.com writes:
>
> ... unless you get Keynote from Apple!

Can it export PowerPoint files? The OP said that this was a hard
requirement at his place of employment.

-- David

On Sun, 8 Aug 2004 18:30:40 +0100, David C. wrote
(in article <m2u0vd1qrj.fsf@qqqq.invalid>):

> markg5@SPAMBLOCKmyrealbox.com writes:
>>
>> ... unless you get Keynote from Apple!
>
> Can it export PowerPoint files? The OP said that this was a hard
> requirement at his place of employment.
>
> -- David

Quote:

Keynote can export into PowerPoint, Acrobat PDF files and QuickTime movies.

(http://www.apple.com/keynote/compatibility.html)

.... but I don't own it so I can't say how good it is. I just stand by
experience - *Powerpoint* isn't compatible with Powerpoint! Just upgrade one
of them and watch your transitions fail!

In article <xouRc.90792$a8.55611@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk> ,
markg5@SPAMBLOCKmyrealbox.com wrote:

> On Sun, 8 Aug 2004 18:30:40 +0100, David C. wrote
> (in article <m2u0vd1qrj.fsf@qqqq.invalid>):
>
> > markg5@SPAMBLOCKmyrealbox.com writes:
> >>
> >> ... unless you get Keynote from Apple!
> >
> > Can it export PowerPoint files? The OP said that this was a hard
> > requirement at his place of employment.
> >
> > -- David
>
> Quote:
>
> Keynote can export into PowerPoint, Acrobat PDF files and QuickTime movies.
>
> (http://www.apple.com/keynote/compatibility.html)
>
> ... but I don't own it so I can't say how good it is. I just stand by
> experience - *Powerpoint* isn't compatible with Powerpoint! Just upgrade one
> of them and watch your transitions fail!

There is a free Viewer availble for PPT 98 files

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en