G3 blue and white with 576 MB RAM, OS 10.2.4, lots of room on the hard
drive.

Used to have a lot of fun with iPhoto, collected pictures from borrowed
digital cameras, sent them to friends via MAIL.

Ran into some OS problems and had to reinstall some stuff. That's a long
story involving an attempt to use CC Cloner to put all my data on a
smaller drive so I could give the current one to my son. Cloning always
failed and I tried using TT and DW to make it happen but it didn't. So I
gave up and now when I try to start iPhoto from the dock, or by
attaching a camera, it bounces a few times and dies. I never get a
screen with my images.

However, on this same machine I can log in as someone else and iPhoto
starts right up, downloads images from a camera, does all the stuff it's
supposed to do. So it isn't the application that's faulty.

There are so many little bits to all these OS X applications I'm not
sure where to start, but I can always grab some bits from my other
log-in name and move them to my own account. Anyone have any ideas how I
could replace the errant bit of iPhoto and still keep the images in my
original library?

Thanks,

J

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In article <john.siple-555855.21562916072004@netnews.comcast.net>,
Yet Another John <john.siple@VAPORIZEcomcast.net> wrote:

>...now when I try to start iPhoto from the dock, or by
> attaching a camera, it bounces a few times and dies. I never get a
> screen with my images.
>
> However, on this same machine I can log in as someone else and iPhoto
> starts right up, downloads images from a camera, does all the stuff it's
> supposed to do....

My guess is that your preferences file is messed up. If it were my
machine, I would trash that file. It's found at
<your home directory>/Library/Preferences/com.apple.iPhoto.plist

If no one else gives a more satisfying answer, drag the
com.apple.iPhoto.plist file to the trash and relaunch iPhoto to see if
it works. The program should replace the file, so you'll lose some of
the settings you've made, but not any data (photos).

jim

In article <null-058CCF.13210017072004@news-west.dca.giganews.com>,
Jim Jaeger <null@bitbucket.com> wrote:

> In article <john.siple-555855.21562916072004@netnews.comcast.net>,
> Yet Another John <john.siple@VAPORIZEcomcast.net> wrote:
>
> >...now when I try to start iPhoto from the dock, or by
> > attaching a camera, it bounces a few times and dies. I never get a
> > screen with my images.
> >
> > However, on this same machine I can log in as someone else and iPhoto
> > starts right up, downloads images from a camera, does all the stuff it's
> > supposed to do....
>
> My guess is that your preferences file is messed up. If it were my
> machine, I would trash that file. It's found at
> <your home directory>/Library/Preferences/com.apple.iPhoto.plist
>
> If no one else gives a more satisfying answer, drag the
> com.apple.iPhoto.plist file to the trash and relaunch iPhoto to see if
> it works. The program should replace the file, so you'll lose some of
> the settings you've made, but not any data (photos).
>
> jim

Jim,
Thanks for the help. Had some partial success. I trashed the prefs and
launched iPhoto and it stays launched but I get no window. Tried just
dragging parts of the iPhoto stuff stored in my home/pictures/iphoto
library directory. There weren't any dark options in the "file" menu
when iPhoto was front and center. I can find the images and open them,
but they always open in PREVIEW.

I'm sure there's something simple here that would reconnect everything.

Appreciate your help though,

Johnn

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In article <john.siple-342149.14190717072004@netnews.comcast.net>,
Yet Another John <john.siple@VAPORIZEcomcast.net> wrote:

> In article <null-058CCF.13210017072004@news-west.dca.giganews.com>,
> Jim Jaeger <null@bitbucket.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <john.siple-555855.21562916072004@netnews.comcast.net>,
> > Yet Another John <john.siple@VAPORIZEcomcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > >...now when I try to start iPhoto from the dock, or by
> > > attaching a camera, it bounces a few times and dies...
> > >
> > > ..I can log in as someone else and iPhoto starts right up,
> > > downloads images from a camera, does all the stuff it's
> > > supposed to do....
> >
> > My guess is that your preferences file is messed up. If it were my
> > machine, I would trash that file...The program should replace the
> > file, so you'll lose some of the settings you've made...not any data
>
> Thanks for the help. Had some partial success. I trashed the prefs and
> launched iPhoto and it stays launched but I get no window. Tried just
> dragging parts of the iPhoto stuff stored in my home/pictures/iphoto
> library directory. There weren't any dark options in the "file" menu
> when iPhoto was front and center. I can find the images and open them,
> but they always open in PREVIEW.
>

I've exhausted my knowledge of quick fixes. The fact that you can open
iPhoto from other accounts indicates that it's a problem with your
account. Based on this, it doesn't seem appropriate to recommend a
reinstallation of iPhoto. On Monday, the gurus will be back online. One
of them may have an incantation that you can invoke from Terminal that
will solve it all.

Have you done a Repair Permissions from Disk Utility? When I'm working
on other folk's machines, I do that while I try to think of something
worthwhile to do. Sometimes it works.

jim

Yet Another John wrote:

> In article <null-058CCF.13210017072004@news-west.dca.giganews.com>,
> Jim Jaeger <null@bitbucket.com> wrote:
>
>
>>In article <john.siple-555855.21562916072004@netnews.comcast.net>,
>> Yet Another John <john.siple@VAPORIZEcomcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>...now when I try to start iPhoto from the dock, or by
>>>attaching a camera, it bounces a few times and dies. I never get a
>>>screen with my images.
>>>
>>>However, on this same machine I can log in as someone else and iPhoto
>>>starts right up, downloads images from a camera, does all the stuff it's
>>>supposed to do....
>>
>>My guess is that your preferences file is messed up. If it were my
>>machine, I would trash that file. It's found at
>><your home directory>/Library/Preferences/com.apple.iPhoto.plist
>>
>>If no one else gives a more satisfying answer, drag the
>>com.apple.iPhoto.plist file to the trash and relaunch iPhoto to see if
>>it works. The program should replace the file, so you'll lose some of
>>the settings you've made, but not any data (photos).
>>
>>jim
>
>
> Jim,
> Thanks for the help. Had some partial success. I trashed the prefs and
> launched iPhoto and it stays launched but I get no window. Tried just
> dragging parts of the iPhoto stuff stored in my home/pictures/iphoto
> library directory. There weren't any dark options in the "file" menu
> when iPhoto was front and center. I can find the images and open them,
> but they always open in PREVIEW.
>
> I'm sure there's something simple here that would reconnect everything.
>
> Appreciate your help though,
>
> Johnn
>

Try this:

Create a new account for yourself. Login and make sure iphoto works. Then just
copy over your files into the new account and setup the various programs you
use. (even copy over their preferences directories).

That way, you'll have a "clean" user account. Then just delete or
compress/archive the old one for a while until you're sure you have everything
right.

This is allso a good "backup and restore" exercise since you can pretty much
practice a recovery and familiarize yourself with what things you need to save
and how to recover them. You have plenty of chances to do it over and over
until your comfortable you have it right.

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10Gb Ethernet and Gigabit Ethernet solutions for your MAC
http://www.small-tree.com
1-866-STC-4MAC

Yet Another John wrote:

> In article <null-058CCF.13210017072004@news-west.dca.giganews.com>,
> Jim Jaeger <null@bitbucket.com> wrote:
>
>
>>In article <john.siple-555855.21562916072004@netnews.comcast.net>,
>> Yet Another John <john.siple@VAPORIZEcomcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>...now when I try to start iPhoto from the dock, or by
>>>attaching a camera, it bounces a few times and dies. I never get a
>>>screen with my images.
>>>
>>>However, on this same machine I can log in as someone else and iPhoto
>>>starts right up, downloads images from a camera, does all the stuff it's
>>>supposed to do....
>>
>>My guess is that your preferences file is messed up. If it were my
>>machine, I would trash that file. It's found at
>><your home directory>/Library/Preferences/com.apple.iPhoto.plist
>>
>>If no one else gives a more satisfying answer, drag the
>>com.apple.iPhoto.plist file to the trash and relaunch iPhoto to see if
>>it works. The program should replace the file, so you'll lose some of
>>the settings you've made, but not any data (photos).
>>
>>jim
>
>
> Jim,
> Thanks for the help. Had some partial success. I trashed the prefs and
> launched iPhoto and it stays launched but I get no window. Tried just
> dragging parts of the iPhoto stuff stored in my home/pictures/iphoto
> library directory. There weren't any dark options in the "file" menu
> when iPhoto was front and center. I can find the images and open them,
> but they always open in PREVIEW.
>
> I'm sure there's something simple here that would reconnect everything.
>
> Appreciate your help though,
>
> Johnn
>

Try this:

Create a new account for yourself. Login and make sure iphoto works. Then just
copy over your files into the new account and setup the various programs you
use. (even copy over their preferences directories).

That way, you'll have a "clean" user account. Then just delete or
compress/archive the old one for a while until you're sure you have everything
right.

This is also a good "backup and restore" exercise since you can pretty much
practice a recovery and familiarize yourself with what things you need to save
and how to recover them. You have plenty of chances to do it over and over
until your comfortable you have it right.

--
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10Gb Ethernet and Gigabit Ethernet solutions for your MAC
http://www.small-tree.com
1-866-STC-4MAC

Small Tree Communications wrote:
> Yet Another John wrote:
>
>> In article <null-058CCF.13210017072004@news-west.dca.giganews.com>,
>> Jim Jaeger <null@bitbucket.com>
>>
>> Jim,
>> Thanks for the help. Had some partial success. I trashed the prefs and
>> launched iPhoto and it stays launched but I get no window. Tried just
>> dragging parts of the iPhoto stuff stored in my home/pictures/iphoto
>> library directory. There weren't any dark options in the "file" menu
>> when iPhoto was front and center. I can find the images and open them,
>> but they always open in PREVIEW.
>>
>> I'm sure there's something simple here that would reconnect everything.
>> Appreciate your help though,
>>
>> Johnn
>>
>
> Try this:
>
> Create a new account for yourself. Login and make sure iphoto works.
> Then just copy over your files into the new account and setup the
> various programs you use. (even copy over their preferences directories).

He's already said that iPhoto works in another account. Creating a new
account just to do this creates other problems.
>
> That way, you'll have a "clean" user account. Then just delete or
> compress/archive the old one for a while until you're sure you have
> everything right.
>
The easiest way for a "clean user account" is to hold down the Option
key on launch. There you'll get an opportunity to create a new account,
or navigate to an existing one.

For a corrupt file, before anything more drastic, I'd recommend holding
down : Cmd-Opt-Shift on launch, and let it try to rebuild the data base.

If that doesn't work, I'd create a new user account per the Option
command, and then run Import and navigate to the various files where the
originals are kept. Don't import the thumbnails.

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In article <null-1AC1E9.18264817072004@news-west.dca.giganews.com>,
Jim Jaeger <null@bitbucket.com> wrote:

> In article <john.siple-342149.14190717072004@netnews.comcast.net>,
> Yet Another John <john.siple@VAPORIZEcomcast.net> wrote:
>
> > In article <null-058CCF.13210017072004@news-west.dca.giganews.com>,
> > Jim Jaeger <null@bitbucket.com> wrote:
> >
> > > In article <john.siple-555855.21562916072004@netnews.comcast.net>,
> > > Yet Another John <john.siple@VAPORIZEcomcast.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > >...now when I try to start iPhoto from the dock, or by
> > > > attaching a camera, it bounces a few times and dies...
> > > >
> > > > ..I can log in as someone else and iPhoto starts right up,
> > > > downloads images from a camera, does all the stuff it's
> > > > supposed to do....
> > >
> > > My guess is that your preferences file is messed up. If it were my
> > > machine, I would trash that file...The program should replace the
> > > file, so you'll lose some of the settings you've made...not any data
> >
> > Thanks for the help. Had some partial success. I trashed the prefs and
> > launched iPhoto and it stays launched but I get no window. Tried just
> > dragging parts of the iPhoto stuff stored in my home/pictures/iphoto
> > library directory. There weren't any dark options in the "file" menu
> > when iPhoto was front and center. I can find the images and open them,
> > but they always open in PREVIEW.
> >
>
> I've exhausted my knowledge of quick fixes. The fact that you can open
> iPhoto from other accounts indicates that it's a problem with your
> account. Based on this, it doesn't seem appropriate to recommend a
> reinstallation of iPhoto. On Monday, the gurus will be back online. One
> of them may have an incantation that you can invoke from Terminal that
> will solve it all.
>
> Have you done a Repair Permissions from Disk Utility? When I'm working
> on other folk's machines, I do that while I try to think of something
> worthwhile to do. Sometimes it works.
>
> jim

Permissions repair didn't fix it. Could be that I'll have to follow
Small Tree's suggestion and start a new account and move everything over
to that. Lot of work there considering all the music files, internet
preferences, keychain entries, email files and such. I think if I could
just get the data from the original photo library moved to my wife's
account on this machine (her account has a perfectly normal iPhoto
behavior pattern) then I could probably just wait until I decide to move
up to Panther or something and that would fix it.

This is my only gripe about X. There are so many little parts to
everything, so many alias files pointing hither and yon, so many details
of permission and ownership that when something goes amiss it's very
hard to even restore from a backup and have a functioning set of files.

thanks,

J

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In article <tCAKc.108408$JR4.85009@attbi_s54>,
jpmcwilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote:

> Small Tree Communications wrote:
> > Yet Another John wrote:
> >
> >> In article <null-058CCF.13210017072004@news-west.dca.giganews.com>,
> >> Jim Jaeger <null@bitbucket.com>
> >>
> >> Jim,
> >> Thanks for the help. Had some partial success. I trashed the prefs and
> >> launched iPhoto and it stays launched but I get no window. Tried just
> >> dragging parts of the iPhoto stuff stored in my home/pictures/iphoto
> >> library directory. There weren't any dark options in the "file" menu
> >> when iPhoto was front and center. I can find the images and open them,
> >> but they always open in PREVIEW.
> >>
> >> I'm sure there's something simple here that would reconnect everything.
> >> Appreciate your help though,
> >>
> >> Johnn
> >>
> >
> > Try this:
> >
> > Create a new account for yourself. Login and make sure iphoto works.
> > Then just copy over your files into the new account and setup the
> > various programs you use. (even copy over their preferences directories).
>
> He's already said that iPhoto works in another account. Creating a new
> account just to do this creates other problems.
> >
> > That way, you'll have a "clean" user account. Then just delete or
> > compress/archive the old one for a while until you're sure you have
> > everything right.
> >
> The easiest way for a "clean user account" is to hold down the Option
> key on launch. There you'll get an opportunity to create a new account,
> or navigate to an existing one.
>
> For a corrupt file, before anything more drastic, I'd recommend holding
> down : Cmd-Opt-Shift on launch, and let it try to rebuild the data base.
>
> If that doesn't work, I'd create a new user account per the Option
> command, and then run Import and navigate to the various files where the
> originals are kept. Don't import the thumbnails.
>
> --
> John McWilliams

I found it. After trying suggestions posted I thought I'd see if there
might be some way to reinstall in spite of the fact that the application
worked just fine when I logged in as a different user. I noticed that
the application (version 1.1.1) was created 7-28-02 and modified 6-4-04.
Now back in the old days finding a modified application was a way of
finding a corrupted application. So I went to the Apple site and found a
download for iPhoto 2, downloaded it, read that it wasn't made for
anything slower than 400 Mhz (this is a 350 G3). Installed it anyway and
found that the installer installed 1.1.1. But this time it said it was
created 7-28-02 but modified but modified 7-20-04 (today).

Long and short was that when I opened it there were all my old photos.
So...for all those who took this little problem to heart: it is possible
to have a damaged application that malfunctions for one user but not
another. Go figger.

Thanks to all and rest well.

John

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