I have Panther running on a desktop G4, and have created a bunch of user
accounts for various people in my lab. It has an additional internal hard
drive, which I want only one of the accounts (mine) to be able to see. I
checked ownership and permissions on the volume, and set it to what I
thought would only allow that one account to read/write it. But when I log
in as another user, the drive is listed as owned by whichever name I log in
as! What am I doing wrong? What's the best way to keep accounts out of a
particular disk?

--

Mike Levin
mlevin77@comcast.net

In article <BCAB3661.14ED5%mlevin77@comcast.net>,
Michael Levin <mlevin77@comcast.net> wrote:

> I have Panther running on a desktop G4, and have created a bunch of user
> accounts for various people in my lab. It has an additional internal hard
> drive, which I want only one of the accounts (mine) to be able to see. I
> checked ownership and permissions on the volume, and set it to what I
> thought would only allow that one account to read/write it. But when I log
> in as another user, the drive is listed as owned by whichever name I log in
> as! What am I doing wrong? What's the best way to keep accounts out of a
> particular disk?

Just make sure the users you want to restrict are not allowed to
administer the computer. Go to Users in the system prefs, select the
user you want to lock out, click EDIT and uncheck the "allow user to
administer this computer" button.

If you're the only administrator and you then go to the permissions for
the volume and you disallow read and write permissions to that volume
then you should be the only one who can get there.

John

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On 4/26/04 2:03 AM, in article
john.siple-1AAF9A.23001525042004@netnews.comcast.net, "Yet Another John"
<john.siple@VAPORIZEcomcast.net> wrote:

> In article <BCAB3661.14ED5%mlevin77@comcast.net>,
> Michael Levin <mlevin77@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> I have Panther running on a desktop G4, and have created a bunch of user
>> accounts for various people in my lab. It has an additional internal hard
>> drive, which I want only one of the accounts (mine) to be able to see. I
>> checked ownership and permissions on the volume, and set it to what I
>> thought would only allow that one account to read/write it. But when I log
>> in as another user, the drive is listed as owned by whichever name I log in
>> as! What am I doing wrong? What's the best way to keep accounts out of a
>> particular disk?
>
> Just make sure the users you want to restrict are not allowed to
> administer the computer. Go to Users in the system prefs, select the
> user you want to lock out, click EDIT and uncheck the "allow user to
> administer this computer" button.
>
> If you're the only administrator and you then go to the permissions for
> the volume and you disallow read and write permissions to that volume
> then you should be the only one who can get there.
>
> John

very odd. I looked, and all of the other accounts do not have the "allowed
to administer" checked. I was the administrator, and set the disks to be
owned by me, all permissions disallowed to world and group. And yet, when I
log in as any other user, the disk is shown as being owned by that user, and
completely accessible....

--

Mike Levin
mlevin77@comcast.net

In article <BCB5D7AE.15386%mlevin77@comcast.net>,
Michael Levin <mlevin77@comcast.net> wrote:

> On 4/26/04 2:03 AM, in article
> john.siple-1AAF9A.23001525042004@netnews.comcast.net, "Yet Another John"
> <john.siple@VAPORIZEcomcast.net> wrote:
>
> > In article <BCAB3661.14ED5%mlevin77@comcast.net>,
> > Michael Levin <mlevin77@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >> I have Panther running on a desktop G4, and have created a bunch of user
> >> accounts for various people in my lab. It has an additional internal hard
> >> drive, which I want only one of the accounts (mine) to be able to see. I
> >> checked ownership and permissions on the volume, and set it to what I
> >> thought would only allow that one account to read/write it. But when I log
> >> in as another user, the drive is listed as owned by whichever name I log in
> >> as! What am I doing wrong? What's the best way to keep accounts out of a
> >> particular disk?
> >
> > Just make sure the users you want to restrict are not allowed to
> > administer the computer. Go to Users in the system prefs, select the
> > user you want to lock out, click EDIT and uncheck the "allow user to
> > administer this computer" button.
> >
> > If you're the only administrator and you then go to the permissions for
> > the volume and you disallow read and write permissions to that volume
> > then you should be the only one who can get there.
> >
> > John
>
> very odd. I looked, and all of the other accounts do not have the "allowed
> to administer" checked. I was the administrator, and set the disks to be
> owned by me, all permissions disallowed to world and group. And yet, when I
> log in as any other user, the disk is shown as being owned by that user, and
> completely accessible....

What happens when you run First Aid and repair permissions?

J

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On 4/29/04 12:01 PM, in article
john.siple-A9208A.08565529042004@netnews.comcast.net, "Yet Another John"
<john.siple@VAPORIZEcomcast.net> wrote:

> In article <BCB5D7AE.15386%mlevin77@comcast.net>,
> Michael Levin <mlevin77@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> On 4/26/04 2:03 AM, in article
>> john.siple-1AAF9A.23001525042004@netnews.comcast.net, "Yet Another John"
>> <john.siple@VAPORIZEcomcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> In article <BCAB3661.14ED5%mlevin77@comcast.net>,
>>> Michael Levin <mlevin77@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have Panther running on a desktop G4, and have created a bunch of user
>>>> accounts for various people in my lab. It has an additional internal hard
>>>> drive, which I want only one of the accounts (mine) to be able to see. I
>>>> checked ownership and permissions on the volume, and set it to what I
>>>> thought would only allow that one account to read/write it. But when I log
>>>> in as another user, the drive is listed as owned by whichever name I log in
>>>> as! What am I doing wrong? What's the best way to keep accounts out of a
>>>> particular disk?
>>>
>>> Just make sure the users you want to restrict are not allowed to
>>> administer the computer. Go to Users in the system prefs, select the
>>> user you want to lock out, click EDIT and uncheck the "allow user to
>>> administer this computer" button.
>>>
>>> If you're the only administrator and you then go to the permissions for
>>> the volume and you disallow read and write permissions to that volume
>>> then you should be the only one who can get there.
>>>
>>> John
>>
>> very odd. I looked, and all of the other accounts do not have the "allowed
>> to administer" checked. I was the administrator, and set the disks to be
>> owned by me, all permissions disallowed to world and group. And yet, when I
>> log in as any other user, the disk is shown as being owned by that user, and
>> completely accessible....
>
> What happens when you run First Aid and repair permissions?

aha! Great question. When I tried to repair permissions on the disk, I
discovered that the "repair permissions" button was grayed out. Why?
Because, it turns out the disk has no OSX file system on it! It's an OS9
disk. Now it's starting to make sense. The OS9 disk has no permissions info,
right? So, now the question is: is it possible to turn it into an OSX-style
file system or otherwise assign permissions to it?

--

Mike Levin
mlevin77@comcast.net

Hi, if you want the permissions to apply for an external Hard Disk, Go
get info on the disk, then ownership & permissions. There should be a
check box saying ignore ownership & permissions for this disk. Make
sure that is UNCHECKED. Then, the permissions you have given that disk
should remain the same for all users on the system.
eddav


Michael Levin <mlevin77@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<BCB87BF2.15519%mlevin77@comcast.net>...
> On 4/29/04 12:01 PM, in article
> john.siple-A9208A.08565529042004@netnews.comcast.net, "Yet Another John"
> <john.siple@VAPORIZEcomcast.net> wrote:
>
> > In article <BCB5D7AE.15386%mlevin77@comcast.net>,
> > Michael Levin <mlevin77@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On 4/26/04 2:03 AM, in article
> >> john.siple-1AAF9A.23001525042004@netnews.comcast.net, "Yet Another John"
> >> <john.siple@VAPORIZEcomcast.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> In article <BCAB3661.14ED5%mlevin77@comcast.net>,
> >>> Michael Levin <mlevin77@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I have Panther running on a desktop G4, and have created a bunch of user
> >>>> accounts for various people in my lab. It has an additional internal hard
> >>>> drive, which I want only one of the accounts (mine) to be able to see. I
> >>>> checked ownership and permissions on the volume, and set it to what I
> >>>> thought would only allow that one account to read/write it. But when I log
> >>>> in as another user, the drive is listed as owned by whichever name I log in
> >>>> as! What am I doing wrong? What's the best way to keep accounts out of a
> >>>> particular disk?
> >>>
> >>> Just make sure the users you want to restrict are not allowed to
> >>> administer the computer. Go to Users in the system prefs, select the
> >>> user you want to lock out, click EDIT and uncheck the "allow user to
> >>> administer this computer" button.
> >>>
> >>> If you're the only administrator and you then go to the permissions for
> >>> the volume and you disallow read and write permissions to that volume
> >>> then you should be the only one who can get there.
> >>>
> >>> John
> >>
> >> very odd. I looked, and all of the other accounts do not have the "allowed
> >> to administer" checked. I was the administrator, and set the disks to be
> >> owned by me, all permissions disallowed to world and group. And yet, when I
> >> log in as any other user, the disk is shown as being owned by that user, and
> >> completely accessible....
> >
> > What happens when you run First Aid and repair permissions?
>
> aha! Great question. When I tried to repair permissions on the disk, I
> discovered that the "repair permissions" button was grayed out. Why?
> Because, it turns out the disk has no OSX file system on it! It's an OS9
> disk. Now it's starting to make sense. The OS9 disk has no permissions info,
> right? So, now the question is: is it possible to turn it into an OSX-style
> file system or otherwise assign permissions to it?

On 5/6/04 1:19 AM, in article
cbeb75d4.0405052119.511c95b3@posting.google.com, "eddav"
<edavis@concordia.sa.edu.au> wrote:

> Hi, if you want the permissions to apply for an external Hard Disk, Go
> get info on the disk, then ownership & permissions. There should be a
> check box saying ignore ownership & permissions for this disk. Make
> sure that is UNCHECKED. Then, the permissions you have given that disk
> should remain the same for all users on the system.
> eddav

Oddly enough, even though I did that, it continues to ignore ownership!
Whoever is logged on to the computer is listed as the OS9 disk's owner, even
though I have the ignore box unchecked... If anyone has any other ideas...

Mike


>
> Michael Levin <mlevin77@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:<BCB87BF2.15519%mlevin77@comcast.net>...
>> On 4/29/04 12:01 PM, in article
>> john.siple-A9208A.08565529042004@netnews.comcast.net, "Yet Another John"
>> <john.siple@VAPORIZEcomcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> In article <BCB5D7AE.15386%mlevin77@comcast.net>,
>>> Michael Levin <mlevin77@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/26/04 2:03 AM, in article
>>>> john.siple-1AAF9A.23001525042004@netnews.comcast.net, "Yet Another John"
>>>> <john.siple@VAPORIZEcomcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <BCAB3661.14ED5%mlevin77@comcast.net>,
>>>>> Michael Levin <mlevin77@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have Panther running on a desktop G4, and have created a bunch of user
>>>>>> accounts for various people in my lab. It has an additional internal hard
>>>>>> drive, which I want only one of the accounts (mine) to be able to see. I
>>>>>> checked ownership and permissions on the volume, and set it to what I
>>>>>> thought would only allow that one account to read/write it. But when I
>>>>>> log
>>>>>> in as another user, the drive is listed as owned by whichever name I log
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> as! What am I doing wrong? What's the best way to keep accounts out of a
>>>>>> particular disk?
>>>>>
>>>>> Just make sure the users you want to restrict are not allowed to
>>>>> administer the computer. Go to Users in the system prefs, select the
>>>>> user you want to lock out, click EDIT and uncheck the "allow user to
>>>>> administer this computer" button.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you're the only administrator and you then go to the permissions for
>>>>> the volume and you disallow read and write permissions to that volume
>>>>> then you should be the only one who can get there.
>>>>>
>>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> very odd. I looked, and all of the other accounts do not have the
>>>> "allowed
>>>> to administer" checked. I was the administrator, and set the disks to be
>>>> owned by me, all permissions disallowed to world and group. And yet, when I
>>>> log in as any other user, the disk is shown as being owned by that user,
>>>> and
>>>> completely accessible....
>>>
>>> What happens when you run First Aid and repair permissions?
>>
>> aha! Great question. When I tried to repair permissions on the disk, I
>> discovered that the "repair permissions" button was grayed out. Why?
>> Because, it turns out the disk has no OSX file system on it! It's an OS9
>> disk. Now it's starting to make sense. The OS9 disk has no permissions info,
>> right? So, now the question is: is it possible to turn it into an OSX-style
>> file system or otherwise assign permissions to it?

--

Mike Levin
mlevin77@comcast.net