Hi!

I would like to share my ADSL computer between three computers:

* imac, running OS 9.2.2
* G4 Powerbook, running OS 10.3.3
* PC, running WinXP

The computer store sold me a Netgear DM602 ADSL Modem. But for the life of
me I cannot figure out how to connect all three computers to this modem. It
has one ethernet port and one usb port. What I want to do is connect all
three computers at the same time to this modem. But I don't see enough space
to plug in three computers!

So I called Harris Technology, who recommended that I buy a modem/router
with 4 ethernet ports. But then they told me that I would need network cards
in all three computers.

Now I am confused, and I really don't know enough on the subject. All I
really want to do is use the ADSL connection simultaneously on all three
computers. Would the modem with four ethernet ports be more suited to what I
want to do?

I'd be grateful for any advice.

Kat

In article <BC976137.15DC9%kataklysm@no.spammm.pacific.net.au >,
Kat <kataklysm@no.spammm.pacific.net.au> wrote:

> Hi!
>
> I would like to share my ADSL computer between three computers:
>
> * imac, running OS 9.2.2
> * G4 Powerbook, running OS 10.3.3
> * PC, running WinXP
>
> The computer store sold me a Netgear DM602 ADSL Modem. But for the life of
> me I cannot figure out how to connect all three computers to this modem. It
> has one ethernet port and one usb port. What I want to do is connect all
> three computers at the same time to this modem. But I don't see enough space
> to plug in three computers!
>
> So I called Harris Technology, who recommended that I buy a modem/router
> with 4 ethernet ports. But then they told me that I would need network cards
> in all three computers.
>
> Now I am confused, and I really don't know enough on the subject. All I
> really want to do is use the ADSL connection simultaneously on all three
> computers. Would the modem with four ethernet ports be more suited to what I
> want to do?
>
> I'd be grateful for any advice.
>
> Kat
>

Hi Kat,

Go out and pick up a cheap 4 port broadband router, like a Dlink 602 or
SMC 7004 (I've found them as low as $10 after rebates).
Plug the modem into the WAN port of the router, and plug your three
computers into the LAN side of the router. The routers are configurable
from the computer using a browser, and setup is quite simple following
the router's instructions. The routers also have built in firewalls to
keep out the bad people. :)

In article <BC976137.15DC9%kataklysm@no.spammm.pacific.net.au >, Kat
<kataklysm@no.spammm.pacific.net.au> wrote:

> Hi!
>
> I would like to share my ADSL computer between three computers:
>
> * imac, running OS 9.2.2
> * G4 Powerbook, running OS 10.3.3
> * PC, running WinXP
>
> The computer store sold me a Netgear DM602 ADSL Modem. But for the life of
> me I cannot figure out how to connect all three computers to this modem. It
> has one ethernet port and one usb port. What I want to do is connect all
> three computers at the same time to this modem. But I don't see enough space
> to plug in three computers!

Use a hub or switch. Connect it to the ethernet port of the modem and
the ethernet ports of the computers. You don't need to get another
router, since the modem you have already has a router built in. Make
sure the IP address are set correctly on all the computers, if you are
already using DHCP then use that on the others as well.

> So I called Harris Technology, who recommended that I buy a modem/router
> with 4 ethernet ports. But then they told me that I would need network cards
> in all three computers.

The iMac and Powerbook already have ethernet built-in, so you don't
need network cards for them, and most likely so does the PC. I'm sure
you can identify the port, and if it does then you don't need another
card for that either. I wouldn't buy anything from that company,
because either they don't know what they're talking about or they're
trying to rip you off.

HTH,
Rob.

in article
sillywillybobsdad_withoutspam-39B60F...bellnexxia.net,
Gary W. McIntyre at sillywillybobsdad_withoutspam********.com wrote on
5/4/04 9:37 PM:

> In article <BC976137.15DC9%kataklysm@no.spammm.pacific.net.au >,
> Kat <kataklysm@no.spammm.pacific.net.au> wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> I would like to share my ADSL computer between three computers:
>>
>> * imac, running OS 9.2.2
>> * G4 Powerbook, running OS 10.3.3
>> * PC, running WinXP
>>
>> The computer store sold me a Netgear DM602 ADSL Modem. But for the life of
>> me I cannot figure out how to connect all three computers to this modem. It
>> has one ethernet port and one usb port. What I want to do is connect all
>> three computers at the same time to this modem. But I don't see enough space
>> to plug in three computers!
>>
>> So I called Harris Technology, who recommended that I buy a modem/router
>> with 4 ethernet ports. But then they told me that I would need network cards
>> in all three computers.
>>
>> Now I am confused, and I really don't know enough on the subject. All I
>> really want to do is use the ADSL connection simultaneously on all three
>> computers. Would the modem with four ethernet ports be more suited to what I
>> want to do?
>>
>> I'd be grateful for any advice.
>>
>> Kat
>>
>
> Hi Kat,
>
> Go out and pick up a cheap 4 port broadband router, like a Dlink 602 or
> SMC 7004 (I've found them as low as $10 after rebates).
> Plug the modem into the WAN port of the router, and plug your three
> computers into the LAN side of the router. The routers are configurable
> from the computer using a browser, and setup is quite simple following
> the router's instructions. The routers also have built in firewalls to
> keep out the bad people. :)

Thank you so much for your advice, I really do appreciate it! Kat

in article 050420041352453250%simples_it******.it, simples_it******.it at
simples_it******.it wrote on 5/4/04 10:52 PM:

> In article <BC976137.15DC9%kataklysm@no.spammm.pacific.net.au >, Kat
> <kataklysm@no.spammm.pacific.net.au> wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> I would like to share my ADSL computer between three computers:
>>
>> * imac, running OS 9.2.2
>> * G4 Powerbook, running OS 10.3.3
>> * PC, running WinXP
>>
>> The computer store sold me a Netgear DM602 ADSL Modem. But for the life of
>> me I cannot figure out how to connect all three computers to this modem. It
>> has one ethernet port and one usb port. What I want to do is connect all
>> three computers at the same time to this modem. But I don't see enough space
>> to plug in three computers!
>
> Use a hub or switch. Connect it to the ethernet port of the modem and
> the ethernet ports of the computers. You don't need to get another
> router, since the modem you have already has a router built in. Make
> sure the IP address are set correctly on all the computers, if you are
> already using DHCP then use that on the others as well.
>

ok- so I will need to plug an ethernet switch into the ethernet port on my
new modem. And then I can plug each computer into the ethernet switch. And
therefore this means that you need a modem with a router to use a switch?
Sorry for all the questions, I honestly don't know much about this but I'm
doing my best to learn ;)
The modem I currently use is a Dlink DSL 200, which has one port for the
phone line, and one USB port. So therefore I could not use an ethernet
switch on my old modem?

Thanks so much for your help, I really appreciate it. Kat

>> So I called Harris Technology, who recommended that I buy a modem/router
>> with 4 ethernet ports. But then they told me that I would need network cards
>> in all three computers.
>
> The iMac and Powerbook already have ethernet built-in, so you don't
> need network cards for them, and most likely so does the PC. I'm sure
> you can identify the port, and if it does then you don't need another
> card for that either. I wouldn't buy anything from that company,
> because either they don't know what they're talking about or they're
> trying to rip you off.
>
> HTH,
> Rob.

In article <BC97AE67.15DE3%kataklysm@no.spammm.pacific.net.au >, Kat
<kataklysm@no.spammm.pacific.net.au> wrote:

> in article 050420041352453250%simples_it******.it, simples_it******.it at
> simples_it******.it wrote on 5/4/04 10:52 PM:
>
> > In article <BC976137.15DC9%kataklysm@no.spammm.pacific.net.au >, Kat
> > <kataklysm@no.spammm.pacific.net.au> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi!
> >>
> >> I would like to share my ADSL computer between three computers:
> >>
> >> * imac, running OS 9.2.2
> >> * G4 Powerbook, running OS 10.3.3
> >> * PC, running WinXP
> >>
> >> The computer store sold me a Netgear DM602 ADSL Modem. But for the life of
> >> me I cannot figure out how to connect all three computers to this modem. It
> >> has one ethernet port and one usb port. What I want to do is connect all
> >> three computers at the same time to this modem. But I don't see enough
> >> space
> >> to plug in three computers!
> >
> > Use a hub or switch. Connect it to the ethernet port of the modem and
> > the ethernet ports of the computers. You don't need to get another
> > router, since the modem you have already has a router built in. Make
> > sure the IP address are set correctly on all the computers, if you are
> > already using DHCP then use that on the others as well.
> >
>
> ok- so I will need to plug an ethernet switch into the ethernet port on my
> new modem. And then I can plug each computer into the ethernet switch. And
> therefore this means that you need a modem with a router to use a switch?
> Sorry for all the questions, I honestly don't know much about this but I'm
> doing my best to learn ;)

*Something* has to do the PPPoE protocol. With the ADSL Modem you
have, it will do it. Many ADSL Modems are just modems, so you need to
have something else doing it. One way to do it is with a router, which
will also give you a firewall, and other such good things. Another way
is to use an Ethernet Hub, and then each of your computers has to run
PPPoE for itself.

In article <BC97AE67.15DE3%kataklysm@no.spammm.pacific.net.au >, Kat
<kataklysm@no.spammm.pacific.net.au> wrote:

> in article 050420041352453250%simples_it******.it, simples_it******.it at
> simples_it******.it wrote on 5/4/04 10:52 PM:
>
> > In article <BC976137.15DC9%kataklysm@no.spammm.pacific.net.au >, Kat
> > <kataklysm@no.spammm.pacific.net.au> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi!
> >>
> >> I would like to share my ADSL computer between three computers:
> >>
> >> * imac, running OS 9.2.2
> >> * G4 Powerbook, running OS 10.3.3
> >> * PC, running WinXP
> >>
> >> The computer store sold me a Netgear DM602 ADSL Modem. But for the life of
> >> me I cannot figure out how to connect all three computers to this modem. It
> >> has one ethernet port and one usb port. What I want to do is connect all
> >> three computers at the same time to this modem. But I don't see enough
> >> space
> >> to plug in three computers!
> >
> > Use a hub or switch. Connect it to the ethernet port of the modem and
> > the ethernet ports of the computers. You don't need to get another
> > router, since the modem you have already has a router built in. Make
> > sure the IP address are set correctly on all the computers, if you are
> > already using DHCP then use that on the others as well.
> >
>
> ok- so I will need to plug an ethernet switch into the ethernet port on my
> new modem. And then I can plug each computer into the ethernet switch. And
> therefore this means that you need a modem with a router to use a switch?

Yes. The Netgear DM602 is one such device.

> Sorry for all the questions, I honestly don't know much about this but I'm
> doing my best to learn ;)
> The modem I currently use is a Dlink DSL 200, which has one port for the
> phone line, and one USB port. So therefore I could not use an ethernet
> switch on my old modem?

Correct. But it would still be possible to share the internet
connection by just buying a switch in this case. You would connect the
USB modem to one computer via it's USB port, all the computers would
connect to the switch as usual, and then you would switch on Internet
Sharing on the computer with the modem (which if it was your iMac with
OS 9.2.2, would require third party software; otherwise built in to OS
10.3.3 and WinXP). This is the setup I have (althought with a different
USB modem to yours) and works flawlessly.

Regards,
Rob.

In article <BC97ADCA.15DE1%kataklysm@no.spammm.pacific.net.au >, Kat
<kataklysm@no.spammm.pacific.net.au> wrote:

> in article
> sillywillybobsdad_withoutspam-39B60F...bellnexxia.net,
> Gary W. McIntyre at sillywillybobsdad_withoutspam********.com wrote on
> 5/4/04 9:37 PM:
>
> > In article <BC976137.15DC9%kataklysm@no.spammm.pacific.net.au >,
> > Kat <kataklysm@no.spammm.pacific.net.au> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi!
> >>
> >> I would like to share my ADSL computer between three computers:
> >>
> >> * imac, running OS 9.2.2
> >> * G4 Powerbook, running OS 10.3.3
> >> * PC, running WinXP
> >>
> >> The computer store sold me a Netgear DM602 ADSL Modem. But for the life of
> >> me I cannot figure out how to connect all three computers to this modem. It
> >> has one ethernet port and one usb port. What I want to do is connect all
> >> three computers at the same time to this modem. But I don't see enough
> >> space
> >> to plug in three computers!
> >>
> >> So I called Harris Technology, who recommended that I buy a modem/router
> >> with 4 ethernet ports. But then they told me that I would need network
> >> cards
> >> in all three computers.
> >>
> >> Now I am confused, and I really don't know enough on the subject. All I
> >> really want to do is use the ADSL connection simultaneously on all three
> >> computers. Would the modem with four ethernet ports be more suited to what
> >> I
> >> want to do?
> >>
> >> I'd be grateful for any advice.
> >>
> >> Kat
> >>
> >
> > Hi Kat,
> >
> > Go out and pick up a cheap 4 port broadband router, like a Dlink 602 or
> > SMC 7004 (I've found them as low as $10 after rebates).
> > Plug the modem into the WAN port of the router, and plug your three
> > computers into the LAN side of the router. The routers are configurable
> > from the computer using a browser, and setup is quite simple following
> > the router's instructions. The routers also have built in firewalls to
> > keep out the bad people. :)
>
> Thank you so much for your advice, I really do appreciate it! Kat

I wouldn't bother with this, since that means you would now have 2
routers to configure, which is both more complicated for you and also
redundant. Just get a hub or switch.

Rob.

In article <050420041247366126%dsample@synapse.net>, Don Sample
<dsample@synapse.net> wrote:

> In article <BC97AE67.15DE3%kataklysm@no.spammm.pacific.net.au >, Kat
> <kataklysm@no.spammm.pacific.net.au> wrote:
>
> > in article 050420041352453250%simples_it******.it, simples_it******.it at
> > simples_it******.it wrote on 5/4/04 10:52 PM:
> >
> > > In article <BC976137.15DC9%kataklysm@no.spammm.pacific.net.au >, Kat
> > > <kataklysm@no.spammm.pacific.net.au> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi!
> > >>
> > >> I would like to share my ADSL computer between three computers:
> > >>
> > >> * imac, running OS 9.2.2
> > >> * G4 Powerbook, running OS 10.3.3
> > >> * PC, running WinXP
> > >>
> > >> The computer store sold me a Netgear DM602 ADSL Modem. But for the life
> > >> of
> > >> me I cannot figure out how to connect all three computers to this modem.
> > >> It
> > >> has one ethernet port and one usb port. What I want to do is connect all
> > >> three computers at the same time to this modem. But I don't see enough
> > >> space
> > >> to plug in three computers!
> > >
> > > Use a hub or switch. Connect it to the ethernet port of the modem and
> > > the ethernet ports of the computers. You don't need to get another
> > > router, since the modem you have already has a router built in. Make
> > > sure the IP address are set correctly on all the computers, if you are
> > > already using DHCP then use that on the others as well.
> > >
> >
> > ok- so I will need to plug an ethernet switch into the ethernet port on my
> > new modem. And then I can plug each computer into the ethernet switch. And
> > therefore this means that you need a modem with a router to use a switch?
> > Sorry for all the questions, I honestly don't know much about this but I'm
> > doing my best to learn ;)
>
> *Something* has to do the PPPoE protocol. With the ADSL Modem you
> have, it will do it. Many ADSL Modems are just modems, so you need to
> have something else doing it. One way to do it is with a router, which
> will also give you a firewall, and other such good things. Another way
> is to use an Ethernet Hub, and then each of your computers has to run
> PPPoE for itself.

The Netgear DM602 ADSL Modem that Kat has is a cominded router and
modem, so another router is not needed, and neither will each computer
need to do PPPoE for itself. Just configure th Netgear to do DHCP and
the computers to configure themselves with that.

Rob.

simples_it******.it wrote:
> <snip>

> Correct. But it would still be possible to share the internet
> connection by just buying a switch in this case. You would connect the
> USB modem to one computer via it's USB port, all the computers would
> connect to the switch as usual, and then you would switch on Internet
> Sharing on the computer with the modem (which if it was your iMac with
> OS 9.2.2, would require third party software; otherwise built in to OS
> 10.3.3 and WinXP). This is the setup I have (althought with a different
> USB modem to yours) and works flawlessly.

Since he is a newbie, could you suggest what third party software you
are using?
>
> Regards,
> Rob.

In article <4072C33B.4209@alumni.utexas.net>, Robert Boucher
<boucher1@alumni.utexas.net> wrote:

> simples_it******.it wrote:
> > <snip>
>
> > Correct. But it would still be possible to share the internet
> > connection by just buying a switch in this case. You would connect the
> > USB modem to one computer via it's USB port, all the computers would
> > connect to the switch as usual, and then you would switch on Internet
> > Sharing on the computer with the modem (which if it was your iMac with
> > OS 9.2.2, would require third party software; otherwise built in to OS
> > 10.3.3 and WinXP). This is the setup I have (althought with a different
> > USB modem to yours) and works flawlessly.
>
> Since he is a newbie, could you suggest what third party software you
> are using?

With OS 9.2.2 I used IPNetRouter, available from here:

http://www.sustworks.com/site/prod_ipr_overview.html

$89 (was well worth it when I used to use it). Looks daunting to setup,
but if you follow the instructions exactly then you shouldn't have any
problems.

As I wrote above, 10.3.3 has Internet Sharing built in which is what
I'm using at the moment.

However, as I've previously stated I recommend getting a hub or switch,
and using the Netgear modem which has the router built in.

Regards,
Rob.

in article 070420040413102257%simples_it******.it, simples_it******.it at
simples_it******.it wrote on 7/4/04 1:13 PM:

> In article <4072C33B.4209@alumni.utexas.net>, Robert Boucher
> <boucher1@alumni.utexas.net> wrote:
>
>> simples_it******.it wrote:
>>> <snip>
>>
>>> Correct. But it would still be possible to share the internet
>>> connection by just buying a switch in this case. You would connect the
>>> USB modem to one computer via it's USB port, all the computers would
>>> connect to the switch as usual, and then you would switch on Internet
>>> Sharing on the computer with the modem (which if it was your iMac with
>>> OS 9.2.2, would require third party software; otherwise built in to OS
>>> 10.3.3 and WinXP). This is the setup I have (althought with a different
>>> USB modem to yours) and works flawlessly.
>>
>> Since he is a newbie, could you suggest what third party software you
>> are using?
>
> With OS 9.2.2 I used IPNetRouter, available from here:
>
> http://www.sustworks.com/site/prod_ipr_overview.html
>
> $89 (was well worth it when I used to use it). Looks daunting to setup,
> but if you follow the instructions exactly then you shouldn't have any
> problems.
>
> As I wrote above, 10.3.3 has Internet Sharing built in which is what
> I'm using at the moment.
>
> However, as I've previously stated I recommend getting a hub or switch,
> and using the Netgear modem which has the router built in.
>
> Regards,
> Rob.

Thanks for all your help, Rob. I think I now have a much better idea of how
this is supposed to work - I'll give it a red hot go. Kat