I recently moved to OS X (Panther) on a PowerBook laptop, and spent a
considerable amount of time tweaking the preferences, and adjusting all the
behaviors of the system to suit my tastes. I am now getting a G5 at work; am
I correct in thinking that the G5 can't be booted from a clone of the G4 OS
X volume? It will need it's own personal OS X install, right? If so, is
there any way to move all the prefs and other personalizations from the G4
to the G5, or do I have to try to remember what I did and do everything
again by hand?

--

Mike Levin
mlevin77@comcast.net

In article <BC64113B.D48F%mlevin77@comcast.net>,
Michael Levin <mlevin77@comcast.net> wrote:

> I recently moved to OS X (Panther) on a PowerBook laptop, and spent a
> considerable amount of time tweaking the preferences, and adjusting all the
> behaviors of the system to suit my tastes. I am now getting a G5 at work; am
> I correct in thinking that the G5 can't be booted from a clone of the G4 OS
> X volume? It will need it's own personal OS X install, right? If so, is
> there any way to move all the prefs and other personalizations from the G4
> to the G5, or do I have to try to remember what I did and do everything
> again by hand?


You can probably firewire-target-mode them together and copy your home
folder from the laptop.

m-m

M-M wrote:
> In article <BC64113B.D48F%mlevin77@comcast.net>,
> Michael Levin <mlevin77@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>>I recently moved to OS X (Panther) on a PowerBook laptop, and spent a
>>considerable amount of time tweaking the preferences, and adjusting all the
>>behaviors of the system to suit my tastes. I am now getting a G5 at work; am
>>I correct in thinking that the G5 can't be booted from a clone of the G4 OS
>>X volume? It will need it's own personal OS X install, right? If so, is
>>there any way to move all the prefs and other personalizations from the G4
>>to the G5, or do I have to try to remember what I did and do everything
>>again by hand?
>
>
>
> You can probably firewire-target-mode them together and copy your home
> folder from the laptop.
>
See my post of the 26th in the thread you started above this. Or don't
see it; the idea is simple enough to repeat:

I am suggesting you parition your new G-5, use Carbon Copy Cloner to
bring over your entire G-4 structure, and yes, there's a chance it won't
work right as a boot drive, but the other step is to immediately (clean-
as there's nothing there) install osX on the second partition.

John Mcwilliams

> >>I recently moved to OS X (Panther) on a PowerBook laptop, and spent a
> >>considerable amount of time tweaking the preferences, and adjusting all the
> >>behaviors of the system to suit my tastes. I am now getting a G5 at work; am
> >>I correct in thinking that the G5 can't be booted from a clone of the G4 OS
> >>X volume? It will need it's own personal OS X install, right? If so, is
> >>there any way to move all the prefs and other personalizations from the G4
> >>to the G5, or do I have to try to remember what I did and do everything
> >>again by hand?

If you have a DotMac account go get the free app"Backup" and use it. Not
sure what the deal is if you don't have an Apple account. I just put a
40GB HD in my G4 Sawtooth and had to swith an entire HD's apps and it's
prefs to the new HD. Backup worked great! Saved me a full day of
headaches. And was **** easy to do.

On 2/27/04 8:24 AM, in article
nospam-3FD320.08241327022004@newnews.netaxs.com, "M-M" <nospam@ny.more>
wrote:

> In article <BC64113B.D48F%mlevin77@comcast.net>,
> Michael Levin <mlevin77@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> I recently moved to OS X (Panther) on a PowerBook laptop, and spent a
>> considerable amount of time tweaking the preferences, and adjusting all the
>> behaviors of the system to suit my tastes. I am now getting a G5 at work; am
>> I correct in thinking that the G5 can't be booted from a clone of the G4 OS
>> X volume? It will need it's own personal OS X install, right? If so, is
>> there any way to move all the prefs and other personalizations from the G4
>> to the G5, or do I have to try to remember what I did and do everything
>> again by hand?
>
>
> You can probably firewire-target-mode them together and copy your home
> folder from the laptop.
>
> m-m

So, how does this work: if I am able to use something like Carbon Copy
Cloner to create an exact duplicate of my home folder, do my preferences and
other customizations become usable on the new machine? That is, 1) is
everything stored in my home folder (not in some system directory elsewhere
in the file structure), and 2) will the OS X for the G5 accept the G4 OSX's
prefs (and other) files? Will my home directory and all the invisible stuff
in it work correctly on the G5? How different is the OS X which ships with
the G5 from Panther on a G4, anyway? Apps which run on my G4 should run on
the G5, yes?

--

Mike Levin
mlevin77@comcast.net

In article <BC655E8A.DA24%mlevin77@comcast.net>,
Michael Levin <mlevin77@comcast.net> wrote:

> > You can probably firewire-target-mode them together and copy your home
> > folder from the laptop.
> >
> > m-m
>
> So, how does this work: if I am able to use something like Carbon Copy
> Cloner to create an exact duplicate of my home folder, do my preferences and
> other customizations become usable on the new machine? That is, 1) is
> everything stored in my home folder (not in some system directory elsewhere
> in the file structure), and 2) will the OS X for the G5 accept the G4 OSX's
> prefs (and other) files? Will my home directory and all the invisible stuff
> in it work correctly on the G5? How different is the OS X which ships with
> the G5 from Panther on a G4, anyway? Apps which run on my G4 should run on
> the G5, yes?


You don't need CCC. I would try it out first by creating a new account
on the G5 and renaming the copy of the G4 home directory to the same as
the one you just created. Then replace the home folder the G5 and login
as that user.

I've done it that way between G4's.

m-m

Michael Levin wrote:

> On 2/27/04 8:24 AM, in article
> nospam-3FD320.08241327022004@newnews.netaxs.com, "M-M" <nospam@ny.more>
> wrote:
>
>
>>In article <BC64113B.D48F%mlevin77@comcast.net>,
>>Michael Levin <mlevin77@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I recently moved to OS X (Panther) on a PowerBook laptop, and spent a
>>>considerable amount of time tweaking the preferences, and adjusting all the
>>>behaviors of the system to suit my tastes. I am now getting a G5 at work; am
>>>I correct in thinking that the G5 can't be booted from a clone of the G4 OS
>>>X volume? It will need it's own personal OS X install, right? If so, is
>>>there any way to move all the prefs and other personalizations from the G4
>>>to the G5, or do I have to try to remember what I did and do everything
>>>again by hand?
>>
>>
>>You can probably firewire-target-mode them together and copy your home
>>folder from the laptop.
>>
>>m-m
>
>
> So, how does this work: if I am able to use something like Carbon Copy
> Cloner to create an exact duplicate of my home folder, do my preferences and
> other customizations become usable on the new machine? That is, 1) is
> everything stored in my home folder (not in some system directory elsewhere
> in the file structure), and 2) will the OS X for the G5 accept the G4 OSX's
> prefs (and other) files? Will my home directory and all the invisible stuff
> in it work correctly on the G5? How different is the OS X which ships with
> the G5 from Panther on a G4, anyway? Apps which run on my G4 should run on
> the G5, yes?

Michael-

I wish I could answer defintively yes for the G-5, but I just don't yet
have one. The answer could well be yes to the above, and some folks have
probably done it, but have not posted on this thread.

If you do the partioning, and then do as I have suggested with CCC,
you'll know. If it doesn't work, you'll have all your Home folder on the
new machine anyway.

John McWilliams

In article <gr20c.141192$uV3.670281@attbi_s51>, jpmcwilliams
<jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote:

> Michael Levin wrote:
>
> > On 2/27/04 8:24 AM, in article
> > nospam-3FD320.08241327022004@newnews.netaxs.com, "M-M" <nospam@ny.more>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>In article <BC64113B.D48F%mlevin77@comcast.net>,
> >>Michael Levin <mlevin77@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>I recently moved to OS X (Panther) on a PowerBook laptop, and spent a
> >>>considerable amount of time tweaking the preferences, and adjusting all the
> >>>behaviors of the system to suit my tastes. I am now getting a G5 at work;
> >>>am
> >>>I correct in thinking that the G5 can't be booted from a clone of the G4 OS
> >>>X volume? It will need it's own personal OS X install, right? If so, is
> >>>there any way to move all the prefs and other personalizations from the G4
> >>>to the G5, or do I have to try to remember what I did and do everything
> >>>again by hand?
> >>
> >>
> >>You can probably firewire-target-mode them together and copy your home
> >>folder from the laptop.
> >>
> >>m-m
> >
> >
> > So, how does this work: if I am able to use something like Carbon Copy
> > Cloner to create an exact duplicate of my home folder, do my preferences and
> > other customizations become usable on the new machine? That is, 1) is
> > everything stored in my home folder (not in some system directory elsewhere
> > in the file structure), and 2) will the OS X for the G5 accept the G4 OSX's
> > prefs (and other) files? Will my home directory and all the invisible stuff
> > in it work correctly on the G5? How different is the OS X which ships with
> > the G5 from Panther on a G4, anyway? Apps which run on my G4 should run on
> > the G5, yes?
>
> Michael-
>
> I wish I could answer defintively yes for the G-5, but I just don't yet
> have one. The answer could well be yes to the above, and some folks have
> probably done it, but have not posted on this thread.
>
> If you do the partioning, and then do as I have suggested with CCC,
> you'll know. If it doesn't work, you'll have all your Home folder on the
> new machine anyway.
>
> John McWilliams

It should work just fine. I have been cloning myself all over the place.

Initial install was to a G3 Lombard. Then G4 Sawtooth>iBook>Lime
iMac>eMac>G4 Powerbook>iBook. All was always well. Not to mention all
the times I've screwed up something (I am very good at that) and have
had to resstore from one backup or another.

M-M suggested just your users folder. If you have a ton of software
you've added, cloning is much easier than reinstalling.

--

In article <gr20c.141192$uV3.670281@attbi_s51>, jpmcwilliams
<jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote:

> Michael Levin wrote:
>
> > On 2/27/04 8:24 AM, in article
> > nospam-3FD320.08241327022004@newnews.netaxs.com, "M-M" <nospam@ny.more>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>In article <BC64113B.D48F%mlevin77@comcast.net>,
> >>Michael Levin <mlevin77@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>I recently moved to OS X (Panther) on a PowerBook laptop, and spent a
> >>>considerable amount of time tweaking the preferences, and adjusting all the
> >>>behaviors of the system to suit my tastes. I am now getting a G5 at work;
> >>>am
> >>>I correct in thinking that the G5 can't be booted from a clone of the G4 OS
> >>>X volume? It will need it's own personal OS X install, right? If so, is
> >>>there any way to move all the prefs and other personalizations from the G4
> >>>to the G5, or do I have to try to remember what I did and do everything
> >>>again by hand?
> >>
> >>
> >>You can probably firewire-target-mode them together and copy your home
> >>folder from the laptop.
> >>
> >>m-m
> >
> >
> > So, how does this work: if I am able to use something like Carbon Copy
> > Cloner to create an exact duplicate of my home folder, do my preferences and
> > other customizations become usable on the new machine? That is, 1) is
> > everything stored in my home folder (not in some system directory elsewhere
> > in the file structure), and 2) will the OS X for the G5 accept the G4 OSX's
> > prefs (and other) files? Will my home directory and all the invisible stuff
> > in it work correctly on the G5? How different is the OS X which ships with
> > the G5 from Panther on a G4, anyway? Apps which run on my G4 should run on
> > the G5, yes?
>
> Michael-
>
> I wish I could answer defintively yes for the G-5, but I just don't yet
> have one. The answer could well be yes to the above, and some folks have
> probably done it, but have not posted on this thread.
>
> If you do the partioning, and then do as I have suggested with CCC,
> you'll know. If it doesn't work, you'll have all your Home folder on the
> new machine anyway.
>
> John McWilliams
I forgot my favorite install place - my iPod! I use it to boot any
firewire equipped machine we have.

Having said all this, I must note I have never had the pleasure of
messing with a G5.

--

In article <290220041013586004%NotAbitOFspam*tlance@austin.rr .com>,
Tim Lance <NotAbitOFspam*tlance@austin.rr.com> wrote:

> In article <gr20c.141192$uV3.670281@attbi_s51>, jpmcwilliams
> <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > If you do the partioning, and then do as I have suggested with CCC,
> > you'll know. If it doesn't work, you'll have all your Home folder on the
> > new machine anyway.
> > John McWilliams
>
> It should work just fine. I have been cloning myself all over the place.
>
> Initial install was to a G3 Lombard. Then G4 Sawtooth>iBook>Lime
> iMac>eMac>G4 Powerbook>iBook. All was always well. Not to mention all
> the times I've screwed up something (I am very good at that) and have
> had to resstore from one backup or another.
>
> M-M suggested just your users folder. If you have a ton of software
> you've added, cloning is much easier than reinstalling.

Can anyone who's done this comment on how well it works with multiple
users? I have a family Mac with MacOS 9.2.2 and OSX 10.2.6 and would
like to migrate but still preserve all users' settings, including
userIDs and the like, to a new machine eventually.

The immediate problem for me is how to migrate everything to a larger
disk drive for the same machine. OSX-specific software seems to have
bloated tremendously from their OS9-and-earlier versions.

Van

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