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Old 02-06-2007, 04:25 PM
Dave Fridman
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Original Mac Developers

I know it's a strange question, but does anyone know if any of the
original Macintosh developers were of Jewish origin? I'm guessing Andy
Hertzfeld probably was, but any ideas about Jef Raskin, Susan Kare or
Alan Kay?

Dave Fridman
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Old 02-06-2007, 04:25 PM
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Re: Original Mac Developers

In article <e4733faa.0402210923.3d8526df@posting.google.com >,
dave_fridman******.co.uk (Dave Fridman) wrote:

> I know it's a strange question, but does anyone know if any of the
> original Macintosh developers were of Jewish origin? I'm guessing Andy
> Hertzfeld probably was, but any ideas about Jef Raskin, Susan Kare or
> Alan Kay?


You'll forgive me for being a little wary of such a question, but I've
only just recently discovered (thanks to Mel Gibson and his mentally-ill
father) just how deep anti-Semitism still runs in this country.

Are you yourself Jewish?
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Old 02-06-2007, 04:25 PM
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Re: Original Mac Developers

Macintosh is definitely Scottish.

Charles Martin wrote:
> In article <e4733faa.0402210923.3d8526df@posting.google.com >,
> dave_fridman******.co.uk (Dave Fridman) wrote:
>
>
>>I know it's a strange question, but does anyone know if any of the
>>original Macintosh developers were of Jewish origin? I'm guessing Andy
>>Hertzfeld probably was, but any ideas about Jef Raskin, Susan Kare or
>>Alan Kay?

>
>
> You'll forgive me for being a little wary of such a question, but I've
> only just recently discovered (thanks to Mel Gibson and his mentally-ill
> father) just how deep anti-Semitism still runs in this country.
>
> Are you yourself Jewish?


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Old 02-06-2007, 04:25 PM
Silvio Manuel
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Re: Original Mac Developers

In article <rubbish-AF1513.17035323022004@news01.east.earthlink.net>,
Charles Martin <rubbish@bollocks.org> wrote:
>
> You'll forgive me for being a little wary of such a question, but I've
> only just recently discovered (thanks to Mel Gibson and his mentally-ill
> father) just how deep anti-Semitism still runs in this country.
>
> Are you yourself Jewish?


And the fact that Gibson grew up in Australia, and basically
denounces anti-semitisim means nothing apparently.
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Nathaniel Flick
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Re: Original Mac Developers

in article ghostmancer-729707.22261923022004@news.verizon.net, Silvio Manuel
at ghostmancer@the_void.org wrote on 2/23/04 7:17 PM:

> In article <rubbish-AF1513.17035323022004@news01.east.earthlink.net>,
> Charles Martin <rubbish@bollocks.org> wrote:
>>
>> You'll forgive me for being a little wary of such a question, but I've
>> only just recently discovered (thanks to Mel Gibson and his mentally-ill
>> father) just how deep anti-Semitism still runs in this country.
>>
>> Are you yourself Jewish?

>
> And the fact that Gibson grew up in Australia, and basically
> denounces anti-semitisim means nothing apparently.


Exactly. Has Gibson EVER said "I hate Jewish people"? I don't think so.

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Old 02-06-2007, 04:25 PM
Dave Fridman
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Re: Original Mac Developers

Charles Martin <rubbish@bollocks.org> wrote in message news:<rubbish-AF1513.17035323022004@news01.east.earthlink.net>.. .

> You'll forgive me for being a little wary of such a question, but I've
> only just recently discovered (thanks to Mel Gibson and his mentally-ill
> father) just how deep anti-Semitism still runs in this country.
>
> Are you yourself Jewish?


As it happens, yes. However, the question was meant from an ethnic
point of view, not a religious one. I was interested in the social
history and contributions of Jewish Americans as a culture group, just
like Italian Americans, Polish Americans (such as Steve Wozniak), Arab
Americans (including, by birth, Steve Jobs) and even Australian
Americans (e.g. the tolerant Mr. Gibson).

Dave
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Old 02-06-2007, 04:27 PM
Charles Martin
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Re: Original Mac Developers

In article <ghostmancer-729707.22261923022004@news.verizon.net>,
Silvio Manuel <ghostmancer@the_void.org> wrote:

> In article <rubbish-AF1513.17035323022004@news01.east.earthlink.net>,
> Charles Martin <rubbish@bollocks.org> wrote:
> >
> > You'll forgive me for being a little wary of such a question, but I've
> > only just recently discovered (thanks to Mel Gibson and his mentally-ill
> > father) just how deep anti-Semitism still runs in this country.
> >
> > Are you yourself Jewish?

>
> And the fact that Gibson grew up in Australia, and basically
> denounces anti-semitisim means nothing apparently.


I didn't say Mel Gibson was anti-semantic, Mr Reading Comprehension
Problem. I *did* imply that his dad was, though, and it certainly seems
that way to me reading his web site (Gibson's dad's web site).

What I actually *said* was that Gibson's film (which I have no real
opinion on either way except that I hear it's pretty gorey) has caused
me to discover how deep anti-Semitism runs in this country (being the
US).
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