I was hoping that Safari would make my life easier and allow me to
finally get rid of Internet Explorer. Oh, well...

Just today, Safari started hanging while opening LOTS of web sites it
used to open with no difficulty. While I can still open many other web
sites, lots of them now end up showing a message like this in the status
bar:

Loading "http://apple.netscape.com/apple.adp", completed 0 of 1 item

....and then a blank page and an interminable hang. (Note that this is
the default home page, as set up by Apple. You think _that_ would open!)
Repeated attempts at loading various pages eventually ends up with an
"unexpectedly quit" crash.

Last night I installed the software for an HP PSC 2510. This is an
all-in-one copier, scanner, fax, printer. Could that have somehow goofed
up Safari??? I can't think of any other things I've done recently that
might have caused a problem - no other software installations, no
crashes, etc.

Steps I've taken: I first tried the "Reset Safari..." item in the Safari
menu. That didn't help, so then I deleted the "com.apple.Safari.plist"
file from my "~/Library/Preferences" folder. When that didn't work, I
tried re-running the Safari installer (from a fresh download from
Apple's web site.) When that didn't work, I deleted everything that the
Finder's "Find" command turned up with Safari in the name (except for
some Microsoft Office files that seemed unrelated) - caches, bookmarks,
folders, pkgs, the app itself - and re-installed.

It _still_ hangs!

I'm running OS X 10.2.8 on an iBook 2000 dual-USB and Safari 1.0 (v85).
Any help would be much appreciated!

Thanks,

Chip

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In article <c.zempel-820B4F.17224301122003@news04.west.earthlink.net>,
Chip Zempel <c.zempel@mindspring.com> wrote:

> I was hoping that Safari would make my life easier and allow me to
> finally get rid of Internet Explorer. Oh, well...
>
[snip]

P.S. Explorer still works, FWIW.

Chip

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Chip Zempel <c.zempel@mindspring.com> wrote:
>In article <c.zempel-820B4F.17224301122003@news04.west.earthlink.net>,
> Chip Zempel <c.zempel@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>> I was hoping that Safari would make my life easier and allow me to
>> finally get rid of Internet Explorer. Oh, well...
>>
>[snip]
>
>P.S. Explorer still works, FWIW.

Mozilla works great for me on 10.2.8.

(mozilla.org)

--
Steven O'Neill steveo@panix.com
www.bridgetolls.org

Chip Zempel <c.zempel@mindspring.com> wrote:

> Loading "http://apple.netscape.com/apple.adp", completed 0 of 1 item

http://apple.netscape.com/apple.adp opens correctly on my system
(G4/OS-X 10.3.1).

In <c.zempel-820B4F.17224301122003@news04.west.earthlink.net> Chip
Zempel wrote:

| Loading "http://apple.netscape.com/apple.adp", completed 0 of 1 item

Check the installed fonts for "Times RO"... if present, remove it.

I had similar problem and everything I tried did not resolve until I
found an Apple knowledge base item regarding above... Jim

In article <20031201203626246-0800@news.saber.net>,
Jim <NOnetSPAM4rj@saber.net> wrote:

> In <c.zempel-820B4F.17224301122003@news04.west.earthlink.net> Chip
> Zempel wrote:
>
> | Loading "http://apple.netscape.com/apple.adp", completed 0 of 1 item
>
> Check the installed fonts for "Times RO"... if present, remove it.
>
> I had similar problem and everything I tried did not resolve until I
> found an Apple knowledge base item regarding above... Jim



I LOVE YOU, MAN!!!

(In other words - that did the trick! Thanks!)

Chip

....and yes, I do recall seeing that font being installed by the HP
installer last night. So I'm sending a note to HP. For anyone else
interested, the Knowledge Base article number is 107641 and can be
accessed at:

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107641

Thanks again!

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part preceding the "at" symbol)

In article <c.zempel-820B4F.17224301122003@news04.west.earthlink.net>,
Chip Zempel <c.zempel@mindspring.com> wrote:

> Just today, Safari started hanging while opening LOTS of web sites it
> used to open with no difficulty

> Last night I installed the software for an HP PSC 2510. This is an
> all-in-one copier, scanner, fax, printer. Could that have somehow goofed
> up Safari??? I can't think of any other things I've done recently that
> might have caused a problem - no other software installations, no
> crashes, etc.
>
> Steps I've taken: I first tried the "Reset Safari..." item in the Safari
> menu. That didn't help, so then I deleted the "com.apple.Safari.plist"
> file from my "~/Library/Preferences" folder. When that didn't work, I
> tried re-running the Safari installer (from a fresh download from
> Apple's web site.) When that didn't work, I deleted everything that the
> Finder's "Find" command turned up with Safari in the name (except for
> some Microsoft Office files that seemed unrelated) - caches, bookmarks,
> folders, pkgs, the app itself - and re-installed.

.. . . doesn't sound like you've tried uninstalling the HP software yet.
That would have been my first move . . .

Glenn

In <c.zempel-1F0D11.23312301122003@news03.west.earthlink.net> Chip
Zempel wrote:

| In article <20031201203626246-0800@news.saber.net>,
| Jim <NOnetSPAM4rj@saber.net> wrote:
|
| > In <c.zempel-820B4F.17224301122003@news04.west.earthlink.net> Chip
| > Zempel wrote:
| >
| > | Loading "http://apple.netscape.com/apple.adp", completed 0 of 1
| > | item
| >
| > Check the installed fonts for "Times RO"... if present, remove it.
| >
| > I had similar problem and everything I tried did not resolve until I
| > found an Apple knowledge base item regarding above... Jim
|
|
|
| I LOVE YOU, MAN!!!
|
| (In other words - that did the trick! Thanks!)

I'm happy it worked for you... I spent 4-5 months with no response to my
posts trying to resolve problem before I found the Knowledge Base item.
Fortunately for me, the problem only appeared on one site that I tried
to go to regularly.

Thanks for posting Knowledge Base info as I was pressed for time when I
posted.

and... now I know where I got the font from. Thanks... Jim

For OSX..., Camino from Mozilla is the best. This is the fastest browser I
tried. Faster than Safari. It works great. You can download it here:
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/camino/

Marc Legare





dans l'article c.zempel-820B4F.17224301122003@news0....earthlink.net,
Chip Zempel à c.zempel@mindspring.com a écrit le 01/12/03 20:22*:

> I was hoping that Safari would make my life easier and allow me to
> finally get rid of Internet Explorer. Oh, well...
>
> Just today, Safari started hanging while opening LOTS of web sites it
> used to open with no difficulty. While I can still open many other web
> sites, lots of them now end up showing a message like this in the status
> bar:
>
> Loading "http://apple.netscape.com/apple.adp", completed 0 of 1 item
>
> ...and then a blank page and an interminable hang. (Note that this is
> the default home page, as set up by Apple. You think _that_ would open!)
> Repeated attempts at loading various pages eventually ends up with an
> "unexpectedly quit" crash.
>
> Last night I installed the software for an HP PSC 2510. This is an
> all-in-one copier, scanner, fax, printer. Could that have somehow goofed
> up Safari??? I can't think of any other things I've done recently that
> might have caused a problem - no other software installations, no
> crashes, etc.
>
> Steps I've taken: I first tried the "Reset Safari..." item in the Safari
> menu. That didn't help, so then I deleted the "com.apple.Safari.plist"
> file from my "~/Library/Preferences" folder. When that didn't work, I
> tried re-running the Safari installer (from a fresh download from
> Apple's web site.) When that didn't work, I deleted everything that the
> Finder's "Find" command turned up with Safari in the name (except for
> some Microsoft Office files that seemed unrelated) - caches, bookmarks,
> folders, pkgs, the app itself - and re-installed.
>
> It _still_ hangs!
>
> I'm running OS X 10.2.8 on an iBook 2000 dual-USB and Safari 1.0 (v85).
> Any help would be much appreciated!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chip

In article <BBF2449A.2D52%mlegarxe@iqdho.com>,
MLEGARE <mlegarxe@iqdho.com> wrote:

> > I was hoping that Safari would make my life easier and allow me to
> > finally get rid of Internet Explorer. Oh, well...
> >
> > Just today, Safari started hanging while opening LOTS of web sites it
> > used to open with no difficulty. While I can still open many other web
> > sites, lots of them now end up showing a message like this in the status
> > bar:
> >
> > Loading "http://apple.netscape.com/apple.adp", completed 0 of 1 item
> >

Just did that one. No problem here (G4 PowerBook, Jaguar OS X 10.2.8).
I have an update of Safari that is not done, yet. I have version 1.0
(v85.5). Prefs munged on you?

--
-- Lou Pecora
My views are my own.

In article <20031202095025751-0800@news.saber.net>,
Jim <NOnetSPAM4rj@saber.net> wrote:

> I'm happy it worked for you... I spent 4-5 months with no response to my
> posts trying to resolve problem before I found the Knowledge Base item.
> Fortunately for me, the problem only appeared on one site that I tried
> to go to regularly.
>

I'd say almost _half_ of my toolbar bookmarks refused to load!

Thanks again for your help-

Chip

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part preceding the "at" symbol)

In article <BBF2449A.2D52%mlegarxe@iqdho.com>,
MLEGARE <mlegarxe@iqdho.com> wrote:

> For OSX..., Camino from Mozilla is the best. This is the fastest browser I
> tried. Faster than Safari. It works great. You can download it here:
> http://www.mozilla.org/projects/camino/
>
> Marc Legare
>

Merci pour le lien. Je l'essayerai.

(Courtesy of Babelfish and high school French many years ago!)

Chip

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MLEGARE <mlegarxe@iqdho.com> wrote:

> For OSX..., Camino from Mozilla is the best.

So you're suggesting that, rather than remove the one font that's
causing his problem, he should use a different browser?

--
Mike Rosenberg

<http://www.macconsult.com> Macintosh consulting services for NE Florida
<http://bogart-tribute.net> Tribute to Humphrey Bogart

When I tried Safari, i liked it better than Explorer and Netscape. When I
tried Camino I didn't thought that something was faster than Safari. Camino
is really faster than Safari. As is, Camino can be even faster with a
simple modification I can give here to peoples interested to try it.

For peoples who can read in french, this site is simply marvelous about tips
for OSX: www.osxfacile.com

Marc Legare


dans l'article 1g5dvko.15hwwpjna122oN%mike@POSTTOGROUP.invalid, Mike
Rosenberg à mike@POSTTOGROUP.invalid a écrit le 03/12/03 09:12*:

> MLEGARE <mlegarxe@iqdho.com> wrote:
>
>> For OSX..., Camino from Mozilla is the best.
>
> So you're suggesting that, rather than remove the one font that's
> causing his problem, he should use a different browser?

Jim <NOnetSPAM4rj@saber.net> wrote:

> Check the installed fonts for "Times RO"... if present, remove it.

What is RO? Mine has Times New Roman. Is that a problem?