Can anyone tell me if Norton Utilities, which I've been using with great
success under OS9, is of any use in OSX (Panther)? I'm thinking of checking
the file structure and defragging the internal hard drive. I've come across
some posts on the web suggesting that NU doesn't handle the OS X file system
properly and can cause more problems than it solves. Is this true? What's
your feeling on Norton on OSX?

On a related note, I used to have TechTool Pro which had options to check
the disk and update some kind of consistency check of the file system every
few hours. I bought an AppleCare warranty, which included TechTool Deluxe.
Is this better (or the same) as TechTool Pro? I ran it today and discovered
that while it has all of the hardware diagnostic stuff, it doesn't seem to
have those options to be set to keep checking the file system (on OS9 it
claimed that that helps restore in the event of a file system problem
because it saved state).

Any info on these issues would be greatly appreciated! Please cc: to
mlevin77@comcast.net.

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mlevin77@comcast.net

On 11/21/03 4:31 PM, in article BBE4188C.12C8%mlevin77@comcast.net, "Michael
Levin" <mlevin77@comcast.net> wrote:

> Can anyone tell me if Norton Utilities, which I've been using with great
> success under OS9, is of any use in OSX (Panther)? I'm thinking of checking
> the file structure and defragging the internal hard drive. I've come across
> some posts on the web suggesting that NU doesn't handle the OS X file system
> properly and can cause more problems than it solves. Is this true? What's
> your feeling on Norton on OSX?
>
> On a related note, I used to have TechTool Pro which had options to check
> the disk and update some kind of consistency check of the file system every
> few hours. I bought an AppleCare warranty, which included TechTool Deluxe.
> Is this better (or the same) as TechTool Pro? I ran it today and discovered
> that while it has all of the hardware diagnostic stuff, it doesn't seem to
> have those options to be set to keep checking the file system (on OS9 it
> claimed that that helps restore in the event of a file system problem
> because it saved state).
>
> Any info on these issues would be greatly appreciated! Please cc: to
> mlevin77@comcast.net.

I'm no longer using NU for OS X (only Norton Internet Security). However all
Norton products are not fully compatible with Panther yet. You can check
this page for info:

http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT...8256b4a0078a51
d/5a024235f844181888256dc000724ae4?OpenDocument&prod =&ver=&src=sg&pcode=&svy
=&csm=no

Re defragmenter: I'd recommend Drive X. In fact if you buy Drive X now, you
will get a free upgrade to TechTools Pro 4, if it ever comes out (They have
been announcing the new release since May on the Micromat site, but every
month they bump it out another month, without explanations -- drives me nuts
and has me doubt in their professionalism; after all, don't announce
something as coming out next month if you're not sure, and then continue
doing that from month to month -- just raises expectations -- in this
consumer at least -- and then brings disappointment. Sorry for getting off
the track...)

Michael

In article <BBE3EFEC.D2C%michael@mkpublications.com>, Michael Koch
<michael@mkpublications.com> wrote:

> e defragmenter: I'd recommend Drive X. In fact if you buy Drive X now, you
> will get a free upgrade to TechTools Pro 4, if it ever comes out (They have
> been announcing the new release since May on the Micromat site, but every
> month they bump it out another month, without explanations -- drives me nuts
> and has me doubt in their professionalism; after all, don't announce
> something as coming out next month if you're not sure, and then continue
> doing that from month to month -- just raises expectations -- in this
> consumer at least -- and then brings disappointment. Sorry for getting off
> the track...)

Yeah, they're pissing me off too. For the record Drive Ten's tools are
going to be included in TTP4 wheneverthehell it comes out.

In article <BBE4188C.12C8%mlevin77@comcast.net>, Michael Levin
<mlevin77@comcast.net> wrote:

> Can anyone tell me if Norton Utilities, which I've been using with great
> success under OS9, is of any use in OSX (Panther)? I'm thinking of checking
> the file structure and defragging the internal hard drive. I've come across
> some posts on the web suggesting that NU doesn't handle the OS X file system
> properly and can cause more problems than it solves. Is this true? What's
> your feeling on Norton on OSX?

Every time I have used NU with Mac OS X, it has totally trashed
everything to beyond repair by anything else. Luckily I had backups.

> On a related note, I used to have TechTool Pro which had options to check
> the disk and update some kind of consistency check of the file system every
> few hours. I bought an AppleCare warranty, which included TechTool Deluxe.
> Is this better (or the same) as TechTool Pro? I ran it today and discovered
> that while it has all of the hardware diagnostic stuff, it doesn't seem to
> have those options to be set to keep checking the file system (on OS9 it
> claimed that that helps restore in the event of a file system problem
> because it saved state).
>
> Any info on these issues would be greatly appreciated! Please cc: to
> mlevin77@comcast.net.

Diskwarrior is highly recommended.
Rob.

In article <BBE3EFEC.D2C%michael@mkpublications.com>,
Michael Koch <michael@mkpublications.com> wrote:

> Re defragmenter: I'd recommend Drive X. In fact if you buy Drive X now, you
> will get a free upgrade to TechTools Pro 4, if it ever comes out (They have
> been announcing the new release since May on the Micromat site, but every
> month they bump it out another month, without explanations -- drives me nuts
> and has me doubt in their professionalism; after all, don't announce
> something as coming out next month if you're not sure, and then continue
> doing that from month to month -- just raises expectations -- in this
> consumer at least -- and then brings disappointment. Sorry for getting off
> the track...)

Does anyone know if the version of Techtool Deluxe that comes with
Applecare qualifies for upgrade pricing to TT4 Pro?

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Scott <heimdall@spamless.invalid> wrote:

> Does anyone know if the version of Techtool Deluxe that comes with
> Applecare qualifies for upgrade pricing to TT4 Pro?

See <http://www.micromat.com/tt_deluxe/tt_deluxe_upgrade_ttp.html>.

In article <BBE4188C.12C8%mlevin77@comcast.net>,
Michael Levin <mlevin77@comcast.net> wrote:

> Can anyone tell me if Norton Utilities, which I've been using with great
> success under OS9, is of any use in OSX (Panther)? I'm thinking of checking
> the file structure and defragging the internal hard drive. I've come across
> some posts on the web suggesting that NU doesn't handle the OS X file system
> properly and can cause more problems than it solves. Is this true? What's
> your feeling on Norton on OSX?

Norton Utilities hasn't been updated yet to run under Panther, according
to the Symantec website. However, if you run Disk Doctor on the boot
drive, you need to start from the CD anyway, so you can still check for
errors with v. 8.

For some more info:
http://www.tidbits.com/tb-issues/TidBITS-707.html#lnk3


> On a related note, I used to have TechTool Pro which had options to check
> the disk and update some kind of consistency check of the file system every
> few hours. I bought an AppleCare warranty, which included TechTool Deluxe.
> Is this better (or the same) as TechTool Pro? I ran it today and discovered
> that while it has all of the hardware diagnostic stuff, it doesn't seem to
> have those options to be set to keep checking the file system (on OS9 it
> claimed that that helps restore in the event of a file system problem
> because it saved state).

Panther checks SMART now itself.

In article <kentc-E1FF36.15403626112003@news21.bellnet.ca>,
Kent Clarke <kentc@dot.org> wrote:

> In article <BBE4188C.12C8%mlevin77@comcast.net>,
> Michael Levin <mlevin77@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > Can anyone tell me if Norton Utilities, which I've been using with great
> > success under OS9, is of any use in OSX (Panther)? I'm thinking of checking
> > the file structure and defragging the internal hard drive. I've come across
> > some posts on the web suggesting that NU doesn't handle the OS X file system
> > properly and can cause more problems than it solves. Is this true? What's
> > your feeling on Norton on OSX?
>
> Norton Utilities hasn't been updated yet to run under Panther, according
> to the Symantec website. However, if you run Disk Doctor on the boot
> drive, you need to start from the CD anyway, so you can still check for
> errors with v. 8.
>
> For some more info:
> http://www.tidbits.com/tb-issues/TidBITS-707.html#lnk3
>
>
> > On a related note, I used to have TechTool Pro which had options to check
> > the disk and update some kind of consistency check of the file system every
> > few hours. I bought an AppleCare warranty, which included TechTool Deluxe.
> > Is this better (or the same) as TechTool Pro? I ran it today and discovered
> > that while it has all of the hardware diagnostic stuff, it doesn't seem to
> > have those options to be set to keep checking the file system (on OS9 it
> > claimed that that helps restore in the event of a file system problem
> > because it saved state).
>
> Panther checks SMART now itself.

TechTool Deluxe does not have all the features of TechTool Pro 4. TTP4
was released a couple of days ago. It includes the disk optimization and
repair functions. Read about it at:
<http://www.micromat.com/tt_pro_4/tt_pro_4.html>
and
<http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/2895>

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