hi,

Here's the basic problem:

While working in a lab I've been recording data to a relatively old
mac system. Now I need to get that data off the machine so I can
perform some analysis on my new linux box. The mac is (I think) a
powerpc 6500 or 5100 or something like that (if more precise details
are needed I can get them, but currently I am remote from the lab and
machine). Looking at the back of the machine I am not familiar with
any of the available ports, e.g. there's no standard ethernet port, at
least of the type I know. We've been backing up data to zip disks
using a portable drive, however the seeming incompatability of mac and
pc zip disks means I don't think I can shuttle the data across using
those. Ideally I'd like some way of connecting the two, whether by a
network link or serial cable or something and just pulling the data
files over.

Any advice or pointers greatly appreciated, as you can tell I'm not
very knowledgeable about macs. If further details are required I'll
gladly supply them.

Cheers
ps. email address above is now defunct.

In article <43525ce3.0311070536.522fdde0@posting.google.com >,
mats_trash********.com (mat) wrote:

>hi,
>
>Here's the basic problem:
>
>While working in a lab I've been recording data to a relatively old
>mac system. Now I need to get that data off the machine so I can
>perform some analysis on my new linux box. The mac is (I think) a
>powerpc 6500 or 5100 or something like that (if more precise details
>are needed I can get them, but currently I am remote from the lab and
>machine). Looking at the back of the machine I am not familiar with
>any of the available ports, e.g. there's no standard ethernet port, at
>least of the type I know. We've been backing up data to zip disks
>using a portable drive, however the seeming incompatability of mac and
>pc zip disks means I don't think I can shuttle the data across using
>those. Ideally I'd like some way of connecting the two, whether by a
>network link or serial cable or something and just pulling the data
>files over.
>
>Any advice or pointers greatly appreciated, as you can tell I'm not
>very knowledgeable about macs. If further details are required I'll
>gladly supply them.
>
>Cheers
>ps. email address above is now defunct.

Use PC formatted Zip's. The Mac won't care and you can read the files on
your PC.

--
Ron

In article <43525ce3.0311070536.522fdde0@posting.google.com >, mat wrote:
> least of the type I know. We've been backing up data to zip disks
> using a portable drive, however the seeming incompatability of mac and
> pc zip disks means I don't think I can shuttle the data across using
Download and compile hfsutils. it will read Mac disk volumes.
It works under Linux and mounts the hfs volumes (this includes Hds and
Zips as well as floppies (1.44K size only)) I have an older Performa
which I use this tool with. Now that I got it on my lan with a AAUI-to
bnc cable... I don't need hfsutils as much anymore. If its a Performa
it probally has a AAUI plug on the back that looks kinda of like this
(ascii drawing)
\====/
with the international lingo below
<-->
An Asante Friendly net transciever would work fine, thats what I am
using. You can choose either 10-base-t or 10-base-2 (coax).

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In article <43525ce3.0311070536.522fdde0@posting.google.com >, mat
<mats_trash********.com> wrote:

> hi,
>
> Here's the basic problem:
>
> While working in a lab I've been recording data to a relatively old
> mac system. Now I need to get that data off the machine so I can
> perform some analysis on my new linux box. The mac is (I think) a
> powerpc 6500 or 5100 or something like that (if more precise details
> are needed I can get them, but currently I am remote from the lab and
> machine). Looking at the back of the machine I am not familiar with
> any of the available ports, e.g. there's no standard ethernet port, at
> least of the type I know. We've been backing up data to zip disks
> using a portable drive, however the seeming incompatability of mac and
> pc zip disks means I don't think I can shuttle the data across using
> those. Ideally I'd like some way of connecting the two, whether by a
> network link or serial cable or something and just pulling the data
> files over.
>
> Any advice or pointers greatly appreciated, as you can tell I'm not
> very knowledgeable about macs. If further details are required I'll
> gladly supply them.
>
> Cheers
> ps. email address above is now defunct.

Macs can format/read/write Zip disks in PC format. That should work.

In article <43525ce3.0311070536.522fdde0@posting.google.com >,
mat <mats_trash********.com> wrote:


>..... Now I need to get that data off the machine so I can
>perform some analysis on my new linux box. The mac is (I think) a
>powerpc 6500 or 5100 or something like that (if more precise details
>are needed I can get them, but currently I am remote from the lab and
>machine). Looking at the back of the machine I am not familiar with
>any of the available ports, e.g. there's no standard ethernet port, at
>least of the type I know......

Some older machines have an aaui connector. One plugs in an external
device (just a cord with adaptors at each end) that can then provide
a 10base2 or 10baseT connector. If you can get one of these, then you
should be able to set up networking.

> We've been backing up data to zip disks
>using a portable drive, however the seeming incompatability of mac and
>pc zip disks means I don't think I can shuttle the data across using
>those. ......

Depending on how much data and how often you need to transfer it,
using disks like these might be the easiest approach. You are probably
using the native Mac hfs format on these zip disks. They can, however,
be formatted differently. There may be a format that this old mac and
your newer linux machine can both understand. What happens when you
put in a linux-formatted zip drive into the mac?

--
Daniel Packman
NCAR/ACD
pack@ucar.edu

In article <43525ce3.0311070536.522fdde0@posting.google.com >, mat
<mats_trash********.com> wrote:

> hi,
>
> Here's the basic problem:
>
> While working in a lab I've been recording data to a relatively old
> mac system. Now I need to get that data off the machine so I can
> perform some analysis on my new linux box. The mac is (I think) a
> powerpc 6500 or 5100 or something like that (if more precise details
> are needed I can get them, but currently I am remote from the lab and
> machine). Looking at the back of the machine I am not familiar with
> any of the available ports, e.g. there's no standard ethernet port, at
> least of the type I know. We've been backing up data to zip disks
> using a portable drive, however the seeming incompatability of mac and
> pc zip disks means I don't think I can shuttle the data across using
> those. Ideally I'd like some way of connecting the two, whether by a
> network link or serial cable or something and just pulling the data
> files over.

If it doen't have an ethernet port, then you should be able to install
a pci ethernet card. Then you would need to install Pc networking
software. DAVE from Thursby is probably your best bet.

Rob.

In article <43525ce3.0311070536.522fdde0@posting.google.com >,
mats_trash********.com (mat) wrote:

> hi,
>
> Here's the basic problem:
>
> While working in a lab I've been recording data to a relatively old
> mac system. Now I need to get that data off the machine so I can
> perform some analysis on my new linux box. The mac is (I think) a
> powerpc 6500 or 5100 or something like that (if more precise details
> are needed I can get them, but currently I am remote from the lab and
> machine). Looking at the back of the machine I am not familiar with
> any of the available ports, e.g. there's no standard ethernet port, at
> least of the type I know. We've been backing up data to zip disks
> using a portable drive, however the seeming incompatability of mac and
> pc zip disks means I don't think I can shuttle the data across using
> those. Ideally I'd like some way of connecting the two, whether by a
> network link or serial cable or something and just pulling the data
> files over.
>
> Any advice or pointers greatly appreciated, as you can tell I'm not
> very knowledgeable about macs. If further details are required I'll
> gladly supply them.

There's an adapter that will turn the non-standard ethernet connector on
those macs into a standard ethernet one. At that point, you turn on
sharing, tell the computer you'd like the share the entire hard drive,
hook it up to a newer Mac, tell it to connect to the shared one, and
copy away as needed.

The adapter and where to find it:
http://www.rrdatatelecom.com/mac_aau...c__transc.html
(you could also check Mac parts dealers such as www.megamacs.com)

Pointers/details:
http://atpm.com/network/
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