I'm passing my G3 iBook-500 with Panther installed to my daughter,
having replaced it with a new, affordable, and very nice G4-iBook.

Previously, I was the sole user listed on the old iBook, and had
administrator priviledges. I added my daughter as a user, and while
the preference panel claims that she has full rights, her
user-name/password doesn't seem to be usable when installing software
that wants an administrator's password.

For now, I've left my account on the system, and will give her the
password-- but I would prefer to remove that account entirely.

I would hope that removing that account would leave her account with
administrator rights-- but I'm afraid that instead, it would leave no
one with such power, except the root account (which isn't enabled).

Any suggestions?

In article <veoaqv8e6ffei2m0qke96sfq0ohvvd4na7@4ax.com>, Alan Zisman
<alan@nospam.zisman.ca> wrote:

> I'm passing my G3 iBook-500 with Panther installed to my daughter,
> having replaced it with a new, affordable, and very nice G4-iBook.
>
> Previously, I was the sole user listed on the old iBook, and had
> administrator priviledges. I added my daughter as a user, and while
> the preference panel claims that she has full rights, her
> user-name/password doesn't seem to be usable when installing software
> that wants an administrator's password.
>
> For now, I've left my account on the system, and will give her the
> password-- but I would prefer to remove that account entirely.
>
> I would hope that removing that account would leave her account with
> administrator rights-- but I'm afraid that instead, it would leave no
> one with such power, except the root account (which isn't enabled).
>
> Any suggestions?

Have you checked her short name is a member of the 'admin' group in
NetInfo?

Rob..

On Sun, 02 Nov 2003 20:44:04 GMT, "simples_it******.it"
<simples_it******.it> wrote:

>In article <veoaqv8e6ffei2m0qke96sfq0ohvvd4na7@4ax.com>, Alan Zisman
><alan@nospam.zisman.ca> wrote:
>
>> I'm passing my G3 iBook-500 with Panther installed to my daughter,
>> having replaced it with a new, affordable, and very nice G4-iBook.
>>
>> Previously, I was the sole user listed on the old iBook, and had
>> administrator priviledges. I added my daughter as a user, and while
>> the preference panel claims that she has full rights, her
>> user-name/password doesn't seem to be usable when installing software
>> that wants an administrator's password.
>>
>> For now, I've left my account on the system, and will give her the
>> password-- but I would prefer to remove that account entirely.
>>
>> I would hope that removing that account would leave her account with
>> administrator rights-- but I'm afraid that instead, it would leave no
>> one with such power, except the root account (which isn't enabled).
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>
>Have you checked her short name is a member of the 'admin' group in
>NetInfo?
>
Not yet, but I will... thanks.

(A bit later):

I haven't checked on her machine (she's still asleep), but opening
NetInfo Manager on my new system, I don't see how that's done... It's
a set of lists in Finder-like column view... I can, for example, click
'groups' in the left-most column, then admin ... that lets me see info
about the admin group, including users, but it's greyed out, not
letting me make any changes.

I assume when I do that on her system, I will discover that her name
is not listed as a member of the admin group-- but that will only
confirm what I already suspect.

So how do I add her to that group?

In article <nmqcqv4bo2cbit5fjuk7fvg5l85ijh0cuf@4ax.com>, Alan Zisman
<alan@nospam.zisman.ca> wrote:

> On Sun, 02 Nov 2003 20:44:04 GMT, "simples_it******.it"
> <simples_it******.it> wrote:
>
> >In article <veoaqv8e6ffei2m0qke96sfq0ohvvd4na7@4ax.com>, Alan Zisman
> ><alan@nospam.zisman.ca> wrote:
> >
> >Have you checked her short name is a member of the 'admin' group in
> >NetInfo?
> >
> Not yet, but I will... thanks.
>
> (A bit later):
>
> I haven't checked on her machine (she's still asleep), but opening
> NetInfo Manager on my new system, I don't see how that's done... It's
> a set of lists in Finder-like column view... I can, for example, click
> 'groups' in the left-most column, then admin ... that lets me see info
> about the admin group, including users, but it's greyed out, not
> letting me make any changes.

At the bottom there is a little button with a padlock in it which says
'Click the lock to make changes' or choose 'Authenticate...' in the
'Security' menu.

After that, select 'groups', followed by the group 'admin'. In the pane
below, there will be a line with property 'users'. Select that line and
choose 'New Value' in the 'Directory' menu and put in her short name
into the text field. Save changes.

Rob.

On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 19:49:19 GMT, "simples_it******.it"
<simples_it******.it> wrote:

>In article <nmqcqv4bo2cbit5fjuk7fvg5l85ijh0cuf@4ax.com>, Alan Zisman
><alan@nospam.zisman.ca> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 02 Nov 2003 20:44:04 GMT, "simples_it******.it"
>> <simples_it******.it> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <veoaqv8e6ffei2m0qke96sfq0ohvvd4na7@4ax.com>, Alan Zisman
>> ><alan@nospam.zisman.ca> wrote:
>> >
>> >Have you checked her short name is a member of the 'admin' group in
>> >NetInfo?
>> >
>> Not yet, but I will... thanks.
>>
>> (A bit later):
>>
>> I haven't checked on her machine (she's still asleep), but opening
>> NetInfo Manager on my new system, I don't see how that's done... It's
>> a set of lists in Finder-like column view... I can, for example, click
>> 'groups' in the left-most column, then admin ... that lets me see info
>> about the admin group, including users, but it's greyed out, not
>> letting me make any changes.
>
>At the bottom there is a little button with a padlock in it which says
>'Click the lock to make changes' or choose 'Authenticate...' in the
>'Security' menu.
>
>After that, select 'groups', followed by the group 'admin'. In the pane
>below, there will be a line with property 'users'. Select that line and
>choose 'New Value' in the 'Directory' menu and put in her short name
>into the text field. Save changes.
>

Thanks... I got it by logging back in as me, opening the Accounts
system preference, selecting her name, going to the Security tab, and
checking the [x] Administrator option.

Curious that this wasn't presented as an option when creating her
account.

In article <veoaqv8e6ffei2m0qke96sfq0ohvvd4na7@4ax.com>,
Alan Zisman <alan@nospam.zisman.ca> wrote:

> I'm passing my G3 iBook-500 with Panther installed to my daughter,
> having replaced it with a new, affordable, and very nice G4-iBook.
>
> Previously, I was the sole user listed on the old iBook, and had
> administrator priviledges. I added my daughter as a user, and while
> the preference panel claims that she has full rights, her
> user-name/password doesn't seem to be usable when installing software
> that wants an administrator's password.


That's right. Because she's a user, not an administrator (only admins
have the power to actually modify the system).

> For now, I've left my account on the system, and will give her the
> password-- but I would prefer to remove that account entirely.

Surely this could be quickly and easily solved by:

1. Reinstall Panther (clean install, does NOT erase the hard drive)
2. Set up daughter as sole account/system administrator
3. Delete "Previous System" folder.

> I would hope that removing that account would leave her account with
> administrator rights-- but I'm afraid that instead, it would leave no
> one with such power, except the root account (which isn't enabled).

You're right, that would not work.
--
Cheers,
_Chas_
http://www.apple.com/switch
non-spammers can write to chasm at mac (dot com)

On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 09:38:57 GMT, Charles Martin
<rubbish@bollocks.org> wrote:

>In article <veoaqv8e6ffei2m0qke96sfq0ohvvd4na7@4ax.com>,
> Alan Zisman <alan@nospam.zisman.ca> wrote:
>
>> I'm passing my G3 iBook-500 with Panther installed to my daughter,
>> having replaced it with a new, affordable, and very nice G4-iBook.
>>
>> Previously, I was the sole user listed on the old iBook, and had
>> administrator priviledges. I added my daughter as a user, and while
>> the preference panel claims that she has full rights, her
>> user-name/password doesn't seem to be usable when installing software
>> that wants an administrator's password.
>
>
>That's right. Because she's a user, not an administrator (only admins
>have the power to actually modify the system).
>
>> For now, I've left my account on the system, and will give her the
>> password-- but I would prefer to remove that account entirely.
>
>Surely this could be quickly and easily solved by:
>
>1. Reinstall Panther (clean install, does NOT erase the hard drive)
>2. Set up daughter as sole account/system administrator
>3. Delete "Previous System" folder.
>
>> I would hope that removing that account would leave her account with
>> administrator rights-- but I'm afraid that instead, it would leave no
>> one with such power, except the root account (which isn't enabled).
>
>You're right, that would not work.

A clean install would work-- but even easier, once I knew where to
look, was to log in with my administrive user name, go to the Accounts
system preference, click on her name, go to the Security tab, then
check the option to [x] Allow User to Administer This Computer.

After logging in with her log-in, I went back to Accounts preference,
and removed my account and turned off Fast User Switching.