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Old 02-06-2007, 03:46 PM
Andrew Brenner
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Appletalk problems w/ 10.2.8

Since I updated my system to 10.2.8 I can't print to my trusty old
Laserwriter. Print Center tells me that Appletalk is not enabled and
gives me directions for doing so in the Network Preference Pane. The
problem is that it shows Appletalk as being on in there. If I turn off
the checkbox and close the pane, Appletalk is showing on again when
re-opened.

I have a G4 with the Laserwriter 4/600 PS hooked up through an
Etherwrite ethernet bridge. It's worked flawlessly with this machine
from day one including OS 10.1 through 10.2.6. It might be
coincidental that it started doing this when updating to 10.2.8, but
I'm not so sure. My iBook prints to it fine with 10.2.8. I can access
the printer just fine through OS 9 on the G4. I haven't had any other
network problems. Anyone have any ideas?

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Re: Appletalk problems w/ 10.2.8

On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 9:42:00 -0700, Andrew Brenner wrote
(in message <c7ea886f.0310020842.385002a4@posting.google.com>) :

> Since I updated my system to 10.2.8 I can't print to my trusty old
> Laserwriter. Print Center tells me that Appletalk is not enabled and
> gives me directions for doing so in the Network Preference Pane. The
> problem is that it shows Appletalk as being on in there. If I turn off
> the checkbox and close the pane, Appletalk is showing on again when
> re-opened.
>
> I have a G4 with the Laserwriter 4/600 PS hooked up through an
> Etherwrite ethernet bridge. It's worked flawlessly with this machine
> from day one including OS 10.1 through 10.2.6. It might be
> coincidental that it started doing this when updating to 10.2.8, but
> I'm not so sure. My iBook prints to it fine with 10.2.8. I can access
> the printer just fine through OS 9 on the G4. I haven't had any other
> network problems. Anyone have any ideas?
>
> --andrew--


Apple pulled the 10.2.8 update quickly as people had been experiencing
networking problems, although I have not heard of your particular problem.
Uninstalling the 10.2.8 update is not an option, apparently. Apple did post a
workaround for people who installed the update and then had network problems.
Perhaps reading up on this workaround might be useful. You should be able to
find it at www.apple.com/support/OS X

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Old 02-06-2007, 03:48 PM
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Re: Appletalk problems w/ 10.2.8

I spent over an hour on the phone with Applecare on Saturday. They had
me deleting preferences and deleting and recreating profiles in the
Network pane. Still having the same problem. Someone is supposed to be
callng me back within 5 days (which would be tomorrow if we're
counting business days). They said they needed to speak with some of
the engineers.

--andrew--

> Apple pulled the 10.2.8 update quickly as people had been experiencing
> networking problems, although I have not heard of your particular problem.
> Uninstalling the 10.2.8 update is not an option, apparently. Apple did post a
> workaround for people who installed the update and then had network problems.
> Perhaps reading up on this workaround might be useful. You should be able to
> find it at www.apple.com/support/OS X

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Re: Appletalk problems w/ 10.2.8

In article <c7ea886f.0310152025.4aecb629@posting.google.com >,
abrenner@fuse.net (Andrew Brenner) wrote:

> I spent over an hour on the phone with Applecare on Saturday. They had
> me deleting preferences and deleting and recreating profiles in the
> Network pane. Still having the same problem. Someone is supposed to be
> callng me back within 5 days (which would be tomorrow if we're
> counting business days). They said they needed to speak with some of
> the engineers.
>

Was this the original update or the newest re-release? I too updated with the
first updater but I reinstalled 10.2.6.

I was going to install the latest update but now I'll wait to hear what you
have to say.

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Old 02-06-2007, 03:50 PM
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Re: Appletalk problems w/ 10.2.8

Spent another really long phone call with Apple. We finally figured
out that Appletalk isn't initializing for some reason. The only
workaround that was found was to initialize Appletalk directly from
Terminal. This has to be done each time you restart the computer. I'm
holding out to see if updating to Panther might fix it. I kind of
doubt it, but it's a lot easier to do a clean install of the OS from
the Panther CD than to go back to my original Jaguar disc and have to
run updates. They recommended re-installing the system software.

I don't know if it'll help you but here's what they had me do.

DISCLAIMER: You can do some good damage to your system if you
improperly use Terminal. I don't pretend to be an expert, but here's
the steps. Do so at your own risk.

Open Terminal (in Applications-->Utilities by default)

from your username prompt type: appletalk -n

This will tell you if the appletalk stack is running. Mine replies:
The AppleTalk stack is not running.

To manually start Appletalk, enter at the prompt: sudo appletalk -u
en0

It'll ask for your password. Enter it and it should start up. At this
point mine reads: Current zone for interface en0 is *

From what I was told, "en0" is the built-in ethernet port. I believe
they said "en1" would be Airport.

Hope this helps somone out there.

--andrew--
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