Fell ashamed all of you. Windows is a piece of conglomerate ****. All
of you idiots using it becoming brainwashed, little by little.
Microsoft's goal is to suck the gray matter from your brain and cause
you to become one of their lemmings.

Macs are the saddest thing to take up what would be a nice collection
of hardware. Mac users are the stupidest of the bunch. Mac users know
nothing except how to make pretty little picture with photoshop. Ask a
Mac user how to network computers and watch their idiotic faces screw
up with confusion.

Linux is the future my poor, pathetic, doomed zombies. Jump in on the
new frontier before it is too late and your left in the dust to rot
like the corporate children you are!

Repent! Repent!

Not wishing to be drawn into your argument - but biting anyways
mac - OSX10.2 - hmmmm KDE desktop, with Unix
PC's running windows - they serve a purpose

I have a preference for Linux/Unix but have to use Windows for Corporate
stuff, not saying it is right on wrong - just practicalities of living in
today's IT society.

Same argument years ago, my Atari is better than your Commodore

on the other hand - why do I bother the reply ?
"Satan" <binary976******.com> wrote in message
news:309b470a.0309190132.39f66928@posting.google.c om...
> Fell ashamed all of you. Windows is a piece of conglomerate ****. All
> of you idiots using it becoming brainwashed, little by little.
> Microsoft's goal is to suck the gray matter from your brain and cause
> you to become one of their lemmings.
>
> Macs are the saddest thing to take up what would be a nice collection
> of hardware. Mac users are the stupidest of the bunch. Mac users know
> nothing except how to make pretty little picture with photoshop. Ask a
> Mac user how to network computers and watch their idiotic faces screw
> up with confusion.
>
> Linux is the future my poor, pathetic, doomed zombies. Jump in on the
> new frontier before it is too late and your left in the dust to rot
> like the corporate children you are!
>
> Repent! Repent!

"get-fuzzy" <me@here.com> wrote in message news:bkeju9$ts$1@visp.bt.co.uk...
| I have a preference for Linux/Unix but have to use Windows for Corporate
| stuff, not saying it is right on wrong - just practicalities of living
in
| today's IT society.

I agree with you. If *NIX could more people devoted to allowing
cross-platform document compliance, then it could succeed. (StarOffice and
all the other Office Suites are doing very well at this).

zzzzzzz .....

Satan wrote:

> Fell ashamed all of you. Windows is a piece of conglomerate ****. All
> of you idiots using it becoming brainwashed, little by little.
> Microsoft's goal is to suck the gray matter from your brain and cause
> you to become one of their lemmings.
>
> Macs are the saddest thing to take up what would be a nice collection
> of hardware. Mac users are the stupidest of the bunch. Mac users know
> nothing except how to make pretty little picture with photoshop. Ask a
> Mac user how to network computers and watch their idiotic faces screw
> up with confusion.
>
> Linux is the future my poor, pathetic, doomed zombies. Jump in on the
> new frontier before it is too late and your left in the dust to rot
> like the corporate children you are!
>
> Repent! Repent!

Talking in superstitious terms:
Unix and Apple are born for military purposes and therefore both of them
being subject to curse or to an end. Apple and Linux being somewhat less
subject to it than Unix.

Windows was born for the people and more blessed than other systems. I know
you don't care about this stuff but I like to think this way. Windows is
more likely to stay for it is plagued not cursed. It all depends by the
honesty and fairness of the head office.
As you can see Windows has a more inspiring and candid user interface than
the rest. Useless for the others to copy. It must come out of inspiration.
Linux has some hope to serve as a secondary emergency O.S. to serve in case
of windows crash to provide file recovery, e-mail client, internet browser
and word processor.

On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 18:01:18 GMT, J.B. <amoreinfinito2003******.com> wrote:
> Talking in superstitious terms:
> Unix and Apple are born for military purposes and therefore both of them
> being subject to curse or to an end. Apple and Linux being somewhat less
> subject to it than Unix.
>
> Windows was born for the people and more blessed than other systems. I know
> you don't care about this stuff but I like to think this way. Windows is
> more likely to stay for it is plagued not cursed. It all depends by the
> honesty and fairness of the head office.
> As you can see Windows has a more inspiring and candid user interface than
> the rest. Useless for the others to copy. It must come out of inspiration.
> Linux has some hope to serve as a secondary emergency O.S. to serve in case
> of windows crash to provide file recovery, e-mail client, internet browser
> and word processor.
>
Superstitious terms???

Actually, I'm not sure if this looney thinks Windows has been blessed
by God, Billy Bob Gates was inspired by God or what. What is this,
we've got the Old Testament (DOS) and the New Testament (NT)? Just
don't send Gates' minions knockin' on my door passing out little
booklets on the Gospel according to Microshaft.

Lord help this poor Windoze luser - he knows not what he says...protect
him from the evil of worms and viruses, and lead him from the darkness
that is Outhouse Express. Let not his monitor be darkened by the Blue
Screen of Death, and he will be loyal to Lord Gates for the rest of his
days...Amen and pass the security updates...

--
Registered Linux user #266531

J.B. wrote:

> Windows was born for the ...

.... BWA HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA ... thanks for the laughs
..
--
/// Michael J. Tobler: motorcyclist, surfer, skydiver, \\\
\\\ and author: "Inside Linux", "C++ HowTo", "C++ Unleashed" ///
\\\ http://pages.sbcglobal.net/mtobler/mjt_linux_page.html ///
If you think education is expensive, try ignorance.
-- Derek Bok, president of Harvard

"J.B." <amoreinfinito2003******.com> wrote in message news:<OB0bb.12850$Ej.1883109@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca>...
> Talking in superstitious terms:
> Unix and Apple are born for military purposes and therefore both of them
> being subject to curse or to an end. Apple and Linux being somewhat less
> subject to it than Unix.
>
> Windows was born for the people and more blessed than other systems. I know
> you don't care about this stuff but I like to think this way. Windows is
> more likely to stay for it is plagued not cursed. It all depends by the
> honesty and fairness of the head office.
> As you can see Windows has a more inspiring and candid user interface than
> the rest. Useless for the others to copy. It must come out of inspiration.
> Linux has some hope to serve as a secondary emergency O.S. to serve in case
> of windows crash to provide file recovery, e-mail client, internet browser
> and word processor.

Indeed, brother Insane. Let us now sacrifice these false icons of
Bluecurve, Gnome, KDE and PhisherPrice in fronty of the one True Icon
- the Four Coloured Window.

*prays*

Ooops! I talked too soon. Just found this web site. This is going to be a
though battle.
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/20...h-choose_x.htm

From some one who only started using Linux:

I can see that linux is in many way superior to windows, but ... that
does not mean it is good for the regular people. Just think about it,
how hard it is to install linux vs. windows? How hard it is to get on
line if you only have a winmodem? Linux is grate that it is working
well, after you read a lot of books and begin to understand what it is
all about, I am almost at that point now - though have miles to go.
But with windows, you install it and you use it.

The biggest problem with linux, as I see it, is the lack of....
sameness. There are only 2 Windows platforms (NT and 9x) so
development for windows is relatively universal. Just looking around
linux world, there is like 20 different distributions. It is grate, to
have so many options, but when is too many a bad thing.

Also, not a lot of the more specialized software is out for linux. For
example, I have not seen a good graphics program for linux as of yet.
Programs like 3dmax and Maya 5 do not run on linux (actually I think
Maya 5 does, but not sure). But any way - can you list good 3d
modeling and graphics packages that run on linux?

So looking at linux, it definitely rules then it comes to the web and
networking, but in all other areas it lacks - not so much the OS in
it's self, but the software that runs on it. The problem is,
corporations such as Adobe, Corel, and other big software companies do
not see the benefits of developing for linux. Modem manufacturers do
not see the benefits of making drivers for linux and so on. The linux
is not User Friendly and that kills it, it keeps it form ever becoming
a main stream OS such as windows. So thus windows, with its many short
comings, remains to the king.

- Bogdan

Hey you Lin**** dickwad you OS is built on the UNIX platform no......I guess
you didn't know the Mac OS X is to......more proof Linsucks make you
stupid.....

BWAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!

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--
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http://sqr.servebeer.com


"Satan" <binary976******.com> wrote in message
news:309b470a.0309190132.39f66928@posting.google.c om...
> Fell ashamed all of you. Windows is a piece of conglomerate ****. All
> of you idiots using it becoming brainwashed, little by little.
> Microsoft's goal is to suck the gray matter from your brain and cause
> you to become one of their lemmings.
>
> Macs are the saddest thing to take up what would be a nice collection
> of hardware. Mac users are the stupidest of the bunch. Mac users know
> nothing except how to make pretty little picture with photoshop. Ask a
> Mac user how to network computers and watch their idiotic faces screw
> up with confusion.
>
> Linux is the future my poor, pathetic, doomed zombies. Jump in on the
> new frontier before it is too late and your left in the dust to rot
> like the corporate children you are!
>
> Repent! Repent!
>

sqr<sqr@sqr.sqr> spewed forth with the following drivel:

> Hey you Lin**** dickwad you OS is built on the UNIX platform
> no......I guess you didn't know the Mac OS X is to......more proof
> Linsucks make you stupid.....
>
> BWAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!
>
> --
> sqr
> Overseer: alt.os.windows-xp
>
> "Satan" <binary976******.com> wrote in message
> news:309b470a.0309190132.39f66928@posting.google.c om...
>> Fell ashamed all of you. Windows is a piece of conglomerate ****. All
>> of you idiots using it becoming brainwashed, little by little.
>> Microsoft's goal is to suck the gray matter from your brain and cause
>> you to become one of their lemmings.
>>
>> Macs are the saddest thing to take up what would be a nice collection
>> of hardware. Mac users are the stupidest of the bunch. Mac users know
>> nothing except how to make pretty little picture with photoshop. Ask
>> a Mac user how to network computers and watch their idiotic faces
>> screw up with confusion.
>>
>> Linux is the future my poor, pathetic, doomed zombies. Jump in on the
>> new frontier before it is too late and your left in the dust to rot
>> like the corporate children you are!
>>
>> Repent! Repent!

Had a few beers tonight sqr?

--
Buster

Gatekeeper: alt.os.windows-xp

get-fuzzy wrote:

> Same argument years ago, my Atari is better than your Commodore

But it is!! ;)

Maurits.

x0054******.com (Bogdan) wrote in message news:<cb67baea.0309211846.1c49346d@posting.google. com>...
> From some one who only started using Linux:
>
> I can see that linux is in many way superior to windows, but ... that
> does not mean it is good for the regular people.

Funny you should mention that. Just a few weeks ago I had to walk
somebody through turning on their Windows 95 box. They were scared of
how complicated it was. The fact that it kept crashing once we got in
on didn't help things either though.

>Just think about it,
> how hard it is to install linux vs. windows?

About the same. The hardest part of any instalation is finding the
right drivers for the hardware you have. I spent three hours
installing XP the other day, if you include the time spent attempting
to find the correct drivers. Mandrake installed on an almost identical
machine with everything intact. Windows instalation took 39 minutes.
Mandrake too ten. Which is harder to install? Windows... in this case.

> How hard it is to get on
> line if you only have a winmodem?

Yeah,
How hard would it be to get online if all you had was ISDN 56k? That's
a silly question. Dial up users are few and far between thses days.
Assuming they could get online with a winmodem, there aren't very many
places they could still go.

> Linux is grate that it is working
> well, after you read a lot of books and begin to understand what it is
> all about, I am almost at that point now - though have miles to go.

Doesn't sound like you've worked with it. I would say, just install
it, and see what happens. Most mainstream distros are pretty easy to
work with.

> But with windows, you install it and you use it.
>

You're talking about obscure hardware. With Windows, this isn't true.
Windows has just as much trouble with obscure hardware as any os.

> The biggest problem with linux, as I see it, is the lack of....
> sameness. There are only 2 Windows platforms (NT and 9x) so
> development for windows is relatively universal.

Not true.
There are NT and 98, and then you have the subtely different server
platforms. Then there's Win16 vs Win Alpha, and Win32, and soon Win64.
Linux only has one Kernel.


Just looking around
> linux world, there is like 20 different distributions.

Yes, but the vast majority are compatible.
I don't know of 20 mainstream distros that are not compatible with
each other.
Care to name them?

> It is grate, to
> have so many options, but when is too many a bad thing.
>
> Also, not a lot of the more specialized software is out for linux. For
> example, I have not seen a good graphics program for linux as of yet.

My Linux instalation can handle photoshop and most other Windows
programs. How many Linux programs can your Windows box handle?

> Programs like 3dmax and Maya 5 do not run on linux (actually I think
> Maya 5 does, but not sure). But any way - can you list good 3d
> modeling and graphics packages that run on linux?

Not my area. I wouldn't be qualified to talk about any 3d rendoring
software.
It might help to know that both Disney and Dreamworks use Linux now
though.

>
> So looking at linux, it definitely rules then it comes to the web and
> networking, but in all other areas it lacks - not so much the OS in
> it's self, but the software that runs on it. The problem is,
> corporations such as Adobe, Corel, and other big software companies do
> not see the benefits of developing for linux.

Corel has a Linux distribution. Wordperfect office runs on Linux
natively. You need to check your facts.

> Modem manufacturers do
> not see the benefits of making drivers for linux and so on. The linux
> is not User Friendly and that kills it, it keeps it form ever becoming
> a main stream OS such as windows.

I think Linux is more user friendly than Windows in a lot of ways.
Multiple desktops are nice, multiple task bars are great. The
extensibility of it is very useful. You can move things around, mess
with system settings you can't get to in Windows, you can manage your
system in a much more concise way. The fact that there is no one
registry that can destroy your system is nice too. Can't tell you how
many times I've accidently fried Windows 98 with a bad registry
setting. And even now there are no good registry editors for Windows.


>So thus windows, with its many short
> comings, remains to the king.

You need to get out more. Maybe you should get a job or something so
you can afford a reasonable internet connection. SBC has it for $29.95
now in most areas. So there's really no point in using that obscure
Winmodem you seem to love so much. Didn't know they still made those.

Anyway,
It's clear that you're not actually forming your own opinion. Many
Americans do this. If you're going to knock Linux, you need to at
least try to install it. All the reading in the world isn't going to
do you any good if you never give it a test run yourself. Otherwise,
you come off as either years out of date, or horribly misinformed.
What are you so afraid of?


>
> - Bogdan


-Yaj

yaj@s1k.net (Ya'el S.) wrote in message news:<6992025e.0309212257.1d65f6be@posting.google. com>...
> x0054******.com (Bogdan) wrote in message news:<cb67baea.0309211846.1c49346d@posting.google. com>...
> > From some one who only started using Linux:
> >
> > I can see that linux is in many way superior to windows, but ... that
> > does not mean it is good for the regular people.
>
> Funny you should mention that. Just a few weeks ago I had to walk
> somebody through turning on their Windows 95 box. They were scared of
> how complicated it was. The fact that it kept crashing once we got in
> on didn't help things either though.
>
> >Just think about it,
> > how hard it is to install linux vs. windows?
>
> About the same. The hardest part of any instalation is finding the
> right drivers for the hardware you have. I spent three hours
> installing XP the other day, if you include the time spent attempting
> to find the correct drivers. Mandrake installed on an almost identical
> machine with everything intact. Windows instalation took 39 minutes.
> Mandrake too ten. Which is harder to install? Windows... in this case.
>
> > How hard it is to get on
> > line if you only have a winmodem?
>
> Yeah,
> How hard would it be to get online if all you had was ISDN 56k? That's
> a silly question. Dial up users are few and far between thses days.
> Assuming they could get online with a winmodem, there aren't very many
> places they could still go.
>
> > Linux is grate that it is working
> > well, after you read a lot of books and begin to understand what it is
> > all about, I am almost at that point now - though have miles to go.
>
> Doesn't sound like you've worked with it. I would say, just install
> it, and see what happens. Most mainstream distros are pretty easy to
> work with.
>
> > But with windows, you install it and you use it.
> >
>
> You're talking about obscure hardware. With Windows, this isn't true.
> Windows has just as much trouble with obscure hardware as any os.
>
> > The biggest problem with linux, as I see it, is the lack of....
> > sameness. There are only 2 Windows platforms (NT and 9x) so
> > development for windows is relatively universal.
>
> Not true.
> There are NT and 98, and then you have the subtely different server
> platforms. Then there's Win16 vs Win Alpha, and Win32, and soon Win64.
> Linux only has one Kernel.
>
>
> Just looking around
> > linux world, there is like 20 different distributions.
>
> Yes, but the vast majority are compatible.
> I don't know of 20 mainstream distros that are not compatible with
> each other.
> Care to name them?
>
> > It is grate, to
> > have so many options, but when is too many a bad thing.
> >
> > Also, not a lot of the more specialized software is out for linux. For
> > example, I have not seen a good graphics program for linux as of yet.
>
> My Linux instalation can handle photoshop and most other Windows
> programs. How many Linux programs can your Windows box handle?
>
> > Programs like 3dmax and Maya 5 do not run on linux (actually I think
> > Maya 5 does, but not sure). But any way - can you list good 3d
> > modeling and graphics packages that run on linux?
>
> Not my area. I wouldn't be qualified to talk about any 3d rendoring
> software.
> It might help to know that both Disney and Dreamworks use Linux now
> though.
>
> >
> > So looking at linux, it definitely rules then it comes to the web and
> > networking, but in all other areas it lacks - not so much the OS in
> > it's self, but the software that runs on it. The problem is,
> > corporations such as Adobe, Corel, and other big software companies do
> > not see the benefits of developing for linux.
>
> Corel has a Linux distribution. Wordperfect office runs on Linux
> natively. You need to check your facts.
>
> > Modem manufacturers do
> > not see the benefits of making drivers for linux and so on. The linux
> > is not User Friendly and that kills it, it keeps it form ever becoming
> > a main stream OS such as windows.
>
> I think Linux is more user friendly than Windows in a lot of ways.
> Multiple desktops are nice, multiple task bars are great. The
> extensibility of it is very useful. You can move things around, mess
> with system settings you can't get to in Windows, you can manage your
> system in a much more concise way. The fact that there is no one
> registry that can destroy your system is nice too. Can't tell you how
> many times I've accidently fried Windows 98 with a bad registry
> setting. And even now there are no good registry editors for Windows.
>
>
> >So thus windows, with its many short
> > comings, remains to the king.
>
> You need to get out more. Maybe you should get a job or something so
> you can afford a reasonable internet connection. SBC has it for $29.95
> now in most areas. So there's really no point in using that obscure
> Winmodem you seem to love so much. Didn't know they still made those.
>
> Anyway,
> It's clear that you're not actually forming your own opinion. Many
> Americans do this. If you're going to knock Linux, you need to at
> least try to install it. All the reading in the world isn't going to
> do you any good if you never give it a test run yourself. Otherwise,
> you come off as either years out of date, or horribly misinformed.
> What are you so afraid of?
>
>
> >
> > - Bogdan
>
>
> -Yaj

I am not saying that linux is bad and windows is good, far from it. I
think Linux is a superior platform. That is why I am trying to learn
it. But you got to admit that it is not as user friendly as windows or
mac, and that's not all that bad because the un-user-friendliness is
what allows linux to have a lot more options.

My other complain is the lack of software packages. I know that there
is an OpenOffice Package - I used it, and it is pretty good. But what
about other software: Graphics (gimp is good but not as good as Adobe
or Corel), Design, 3dModeling, Publishing Layout Programs, and Others.
The problem is not in the OS but in the support. If only linux
distribution could be designed to be so easy to use that I could
install it on my mom's computer and have here use it whit out here
yelling for help every 5 min, then linux really has a future.

- bogdan