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Old 02-06-2007, 03:39 PM
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new generation ipod versus old, others

Hi,

I am interested in buying an iPod and am wondering the benefits of the
new generation versus the old one, from someone who has used both. Is
it worth the cost? I know the new ones are slightly smaller and have
an arguably advanced user interface, but I'm not sure about the
monetary investment.

For instance, just checked Micro Warehouse, and I can get a 20gb iPod
(presumably first generation) for $300 but a 15gb new generation iPod
for $400. Hmm, 5 less gigabytes, $100 more dollars.

Now, the first one does say that it is only for a Mac, but I've heard
of software that allows you to use it on a PC (which I have). Anyone
ever done this successfully?

By the way, if anyone has a recommendation for which group this should
actually go under, I'd love to hear it. The newsgroup logic doesn't
make sense to me yet.

Tom
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Old 02-06-2007, 03:39 PM
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Re: new generation ipod versus old, others

In article <4224429d.0307220014.17c7d530@posting.google.com >,
yourbull********.com (tc) wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am interested in buying an iPod and am wondering the benefits of the
> new generation versus the old one, from someone who has used both. Is
> it worth the cost? I know the new ones are slightly smaller and have
> an arguably advanced user interface, but I'm not sure about the
> monetary investment.


The new ones also have higher storage capacity.

>
> For instance, just checked Micro Warehouse, and I can get a 20gb iPod
> (presumably first generation) for $300 but a 15gb new generation iPod
> for $400. Hmm, 5 less gigabytes, $100 more dollars.


In that case, I'd probably go with the older one- unless you really need
one of the minor features of the new one.

You won't be able to use the latest version of the syncing software, but
there aren't many features missing, yet. What you'll probably be giving
up is 'future-proofing'. As features are added, the older versions will
be left behind. Like the dock.

The new ones have recording capability, but it isn't supported. Will
Apple release an update to enable that? Who knows?

>
> Now, the first one does say that it is only for a Mac, but I've heard
> of software that allows you to use it on a PC (which I have). Anyone
> ever done this successfully?


I don't know.

>
> By the way, if anyone has a recommendation for which group this should
> actually go under, I'd love to hear it. The newsgroup logic doesn't
> make sense to me yet.


There's no logic to this group. Just windroids making foo(ls) of
themselves.
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Old 02-06-2007, 03:39 PM
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Re: new generation ipod versus old, others

flip wrote:

> In that case, I'd probably go with the older one- unless you really need
> one of the minor features of the new one.


You also get a better (really, larger) battery in the old one.

/BR

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Björn Roth <br@infundo.com> wrote in message news:<k4vTa.19265$KF1.307509@amstwist00>...
> flip wrote:
>
> > In that case, I'd probably go with the older one- unless you really need
> > one of the minor features of the new one.

>
> You also get a better (really, larger) battery in the old one.
>
> /BR


From those of you who have used the new one(s), is the smaller size
really that significant? For what intents and purposes is it better?
For instance, is the newer one truly "pocket-sized" whereas the older
one is too big to be considered so?
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Re: new generation ipod versus old, others

In article <4224429d.0307240722.5c867a09@posting.google.com >,
yourbull********.com (tc) wrote:

> Björn Roth <br@infundo.com> wrote in message
> news:<k4vTa.19265$KF1.307509@amstwist00>...
> > flip wrote:
> >
> > > In that case, I'd probably go with the older one- unless you really need
> > > one of the minor features of the new one.

> >
> > You also get a better (really, larger) battery in the old one.
> >
> > /BR

>
> From those of you who have used the new one(s), is the smaller size
> really that significant? For what intents and purposes is it better?
> For instance, is the newer one truly "pocket-sized" whereas the older
> one is too big to be considered so?


The newer ones have a shorter battery life.
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flip wrote:
> In article <4224429d.0307240722.5c867a09@posting.google.com >,
> yourbull********.com (tc) wrote:
>
>> Björn Roth <br@infundo.com> wrote in message
>> news:<k4vTa.19265$KF1.307509@amstwist00>...
>>> flip wrote:
>>>
>>>> In that case, I'd probably go with the older one- unless you
>>>> really need one of the minor features of the new one.
>>>
>>> You also get a better (really, larger) battery in the old one.
>>>
>>> /BR

>>
>> From those of you who have used the new one(s), is the smaller size
>> really that significant? For what intents and purposes is it better?
>> For instance, is the newer one truly "pocket-sized" whereas the older
>> one is too big to be considered so?

>
> The newer ones have a shorter battery life.



When is Apple going to produce an iPod with an interchangable battery.
They could make quite a bit extra selling everyone a spare battery for
69 bucks or so.

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In article <wm_Ta.227$Pd2.4269@newsfeed.avtel.net>, John
<nospam@nospam.com> wrote:

> flip wrote:
> > In article <4224429d.0307240722.5c867a09@posting.google.com >,
> > yourbull********.com (tc) wrote:
> >
> >> Björn Roth <br@infundo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:<k4vTa.19265$KF1.307509@amstwist00>...
> >>> flip wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> In that case, I'd probably go with the older one- unless you
> >>>> really need one of the minor features of the new one.
> >>>
> >>> You also get a better (really, larger) battery in the old one.
> >>>
> >>> /BR
> >>
> >> From those of you who have used the new one(s), is the smaller size
> >> really that significant? For what intents and purposes is it better?
> >> For instance, is the newer one truly "pocket-sized" whereas the older
> >> one is too big to be considered so?

> >
> > The newer ones have a shorter battery life.

>
>
> When is Apple going to produce an iPod with an interchangable battery.
> They could make quite a bit extra selling everyone a spare battery for
> 69 bucks or so.
>

Why doesn't a third party come up with a battery pack? Give it a good
form factor like the iTrip and I'm sure it would sell.

--
Chris Mack "Refugee, total ****. That's how I've always seen us.
'Invid Fan' Not a help, you'll admit, to agreement between us."
-'Deal/No Deal', CHESS
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Old 02-06-2007, 03:39 PM
Ric
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Re: new generation ipod versus old, others

Belkin has (or will shortly) a battery pack for the new generation iPods. It
takes 4 AA batteries (great if you've got a NiMH recharger) and clips on the
back of the unit, offering a claimed 15 hours of additional playback.
Definitely takes the iPod out of the pocketable (unless you like having a
bulge in your pants... *cough* *cough*) but great if you're worried about
losing power on a long trip. Since it uses AA's you've got a limitless and
ubiquitous source of power. I'll most likely get one before my next big
trip...

Ric

"Invid Fan" <invid@localnet.com> wrote in message
news:240720032118285783%invid@localnet.com...
> In article <wm_Ta.227$Pd2.4269@newsfeed.avtel.net>, John
> <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>
> > flip wrote:
> > > In article <4224429d.0307240722.5c867a09@posting.google.com >,
> > > yourbull********.com (tc) wrote:
> > >
> > >> Björn Roth <br@infundo.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:<k4vTa.19265$KF1.307509@amstwist00>...
> > >>> flip wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> In that case, I'd probably go with the older one- unless you
> > >>>> really need one of the minor features of the new one.
> > >>>
> > >>> You also get a better (really, larger) battery in the old one.
> > >>>
> > >>> /BR
> > >>
> > >> From those of you who have used the new one(s), is the smaller size
> > >> really that significant? For what intents and purposes is it better?
> > >> For instance, is the newer one truly "pocket-sized" whereas the older
> > >> one is too big to be considered so?
> > >
> > > The newer ones have a shorter battery life.

> >
> >
> > When is Apple going to produce an iPod with an interchangable battery.
> > They could make quite a bit extra selling everyone a spare battery for
> > 69 bucks or so.
> >

> Why doesn't a third party come up with a battery pack? Give it a good
> form factor like the iTrip and I'm sure it would sell.
>
> --
> Chris Mack "Refugee, total ****. That's how I've always seen us.
> 'Invid Fan' Not a help, you'll admit, to agreement between us."
> -'Deal/No Deal', CHESS



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