Right,
this should be first, but it didnt come to me like that.

James

"PD43" <pauld1943@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> "James W. Long" <JamesLong@wowway.com> wrote:
>
>>is there a firewall running on the 59 machine...?
>>{which may be blocking icmp echo request}
>>if so, that can be part of the problem.
>
> Try to get it all in the first post next time.
>
> I know... it will be hard.
>
> Try