yes the more i attempt to use hp's backup tools the more i realize the issue
is with the disk because i can only make very small backups or else it
crashes :( Also it thinks the **** disk is RAW.

thanks anyways im sending it off for repairs today.
mcm

"John Barnes" wrote:
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> No. Looks like the crippled version. Looks pretty much like you have tried
> everything except the HP solution.
>
> "mcmcom" <mcmcom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:80CB1E51-9B8D-4658-8B30-69F33AFB8D48@microsoft.com...[color=green]
> > if i type diskpart /? i get a mini help file that tells me /s can be used
> > for
> > a script and /? is for the help screen. Any specific commands i should
> > try
> > on this?
> >
> > thanks,
> > mcm
> >
> > "John Barnes" wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> >> Any chance that the diskpart /? command offers something that will
> >> help with your drive (with drivers if needed)
> >>
> >>
> >> "mcmcom" <mcmcom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:7FC19FFA-F1CF-4D27-8444-ED2AA0658F63@microsoft.com...
> >> > Thanks for the help. I booted off the recovery disk. I went to repair.
> >> > I
> >> > could not see my vista install on the list of installed o.a so I
> >> > thought
> >> > maybe its because my drive is sata so I put the drivers on a USB drive
> >> > and
> >> > attempted to install them they seemed to install but system repair
> >> > still
> >> > cannot see my vista or my c drive. In command prompt i tried to chkdsk
> >> > on
> >> > c
> >> > but it said the drive is raw and this could not run on it. I then tried
> >> > to
> >> > just go into c but it said it was not formatted.
> >> >
> >> > So that's where I'm at now not much further sadly
> >> >
> >> > TIA mcm
> >> >
> >> > "John Barnes" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Can you get into your BIOS to run from the DVD? You can try this
> >> >> program.
> >> >> Some have had to burn to a DVD, others can get it to run from a CD.
> >> >> [url]http://neosmart.net/downloads/guides/Vista_Repair/Vista_Recovery_Disc.iso[/url]
> >> >> You can go to the neosmart site for instructions.
> >> >>
> >> >> "mcmcom" <mcmcom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:69FA4587-94BC-4EDB-8964-5C6158FE1E8B@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > no dice on the Shift F10.
> >> >> > Spoke with HP Support. They say its a HD issue and i have to send
> >> >> > it
> >> >> > in
> >> >> > for
> >> >> > servicing. Of course i have critical information regarding my work
> >> >> > on
> >> >> > this
> >> >> > hd and now have no way to recover it. I also got a vista CD from a
> >> >> > friend
> >> >> > and attempted to do the Repair option from it. VIsta install was
> >> >> > undetected
> >> >> > and i have no way to load drivers for my hard drive. :( So
> >> >> > basically
> >> >> > im
> >> >> > screwed because HP decided to make very poorly written backup and
> >> >> > recovery
> >> >> > software.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Heres how it works.
> >> >> > 1. You can use their recovery software as long as you dont encrypt
> >> >> > you
> >> >> > drive.
> >> >> > 2. Once you encrypt your drive you have to set a new restore point.
> >> >> > 3. You are unable to set a restore point (unknown error) once the
> >> >> > drive
> >> >> > is
> >> >> > encrypted.
> >> >> > 4. You try to recover your computer to factory defaults and are
> >> >> > unable
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > perform a restore until you disable drive encryption.
> >> >> > 5. You cannot disable drive encryption until you can boot into your
> >> >> > OS.
> >> >> > 6. You cannot boot into your OS if you cannot get the boot options
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > ever
> >> >> > display!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > WTF!?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "John Barnes" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Shift key and F10 may get you to a command prompt.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "mcmcom" <mcmcom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:56EEDEA7-1F02-43F5-A8D4-C0AAE63834BB@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> > hi all,
> >> >> >> > i have an HP Compaq 8710p laptop that is about 10 months old.
> >> >> >> > For
> >> >> >> > no
> >> >> >> > apparent reason yesterday it just froze up and when i re-started
> >> >> >> > it
> >> >> >> > it
> >> >> >> > took
> >> >> >> > me directly into Startup Repair. Since then all it will do is
> >> >> >> > boot
> >> >> >> > up
> >> >> >> > into
> >> >> >> > startup repair and fix the same issue, then re-start itself and
> >> >> >> > go
> >> >> >> > back
> >> >> >> > into
> >> >> >> > startup repair, fixing the same issue over and over with no
> >> >> >> > change.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > For some reason i am unable to press F8 to bring up boot options
> >> >> >> > screen
> >> >> >> > during load. And this is easily the most annoying part about the
> >> >> >> > whole
> >> >> >> > situation. there is absolutely NO WAY to interrupt the boot
> >> >> >> > options
> >> >> >> > and
> >> >> >> > get
> >> >> >> > a "selectable" list of boot options, for some reason it ONLY
> >> >> >> > goes
> >> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> > Startup
> >> >> >> > repair.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Startup Repair never lasts too long at all only about 20 seconds
> >> >> >> > each
> >> >> >> > time.
> >> >> >> > The diagnostic code in the details is as follows: (this is the
> >> >> >> > only
> >> >> >> > problem
> >> >> >> > it detects)
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Root cause found:
> >> >> >> > Boot Manager failed to find OS loader.
> >> >> >> > Repair action : File Repair
> >> >> >> > Result : Completed Successfully. Error code 0x0
> >> >> >> > Time taken = 13400 ms
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > So it states that it has fixed it but every time i restart it i
> >> >> >> > get
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > same
> >> >> >> > issue. I cant boot from cd because of course HP in its infinite
> >> >> >> > wisdom
> >> >> >> > decided to make this a "diskless" restore. Using their own
> >> >> >> > branded
> >> >> >> > software
> >> >> >> > to restore your computer - of course there are no restore points
> >> >> >> > (as
> >> >> >> > i
> >> >> >> > couldn't make them some software issue) so now im forced to
> >> >> >> > restore
> >> >> >> > this
> >> >> >> > back
> >> >> >> > to factory settings (which i really dont want to do)
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > If anyone has any idea or had a similar problem like this please
> >> >> >> > offer
> >> >> >> > any
> >> >> >> > suggestions. FYI i am a seasoned MS Programmer with about 2
> >> >> >> > decades
> >> >> >> > of
> >> >> >> > experience and in my lifetime i have never had such a hard time
> >> >> >> > trying
> >> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> > fix
> >> >> >> > a computer. I mean comon, give me a command prompt or something.
> >> >> >> > I
> >> >> >> > find
> >> >> >> > it
> >> >> >> > ridicolous that i cannot interrupt startup at any time
> >>
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