| Re: 2 operating systems
"Chad Harris" <vistaneedsmuchowork.net> wrote in message
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> I'd just like to Add two points--particularly since you say you're buying
> a Dell PC:
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Also if you are buying a Dell PC make sure that you remove any
preinstalled antivirus software. They seem to be accepting bribes
to include non Vista compatible software such as Norton and McAfee.
Use Avast or AVG, both free, instead.
note. email antivirus scanning is superfluous and has been known to screw
Windows Mail.
[url]http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3[/url]
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> 1) Paul's advice to create an image or backup is very important under any
> circumstances. I consider Acronis True Image 10 a great investment
> because of its ease and variety.
>
> 2) It has long been a sore point of mine voiced to the Softies that they
> put pressure on OEM Named Partners and they do not to ship a DVD. The
> reports of pre-Vista SP1 (Build No. 6001.16549 of Vista) in small pre-Beta
> distribution right now and wide Torrent distribution on the web, is that
> it includes Win RE files for everyone to be able to install which answers
> one of my big criticisms that MSFT leaves its end users with pre-installed
> XP and pre-installed Vista up a creek without a Repair Install or Win RE
> paddle. This is done via the new tool called "Create a Recovery Disk"
> which is Redmondspeak for saying "We are giving you Win RE that you would
> have had if we had not forced almost all of our OEM Named Partners into
> not sending you one except Dell who bucked us this time around with Vista
> and their new pcs." There is a screenshot of it in the link below. I'd
> say to MSFT---it's about time. Why didn't you release this file to all
> people who purchased a legit Vista when it RTM'd nearly a year ago, that
> Bill Gates recently crowed about???
>
> Features in Vista SP1 (Build No. 6001.16549 of Vista)
> [url]http://www.apcmag.com/6929/vista_sp1_in_depth[/url]
>
> If you're a Dude buyin' a Dell, Dell says explicitly that you be gettin' a
> Vista OS DVD (with Win RE on it that MSFT is rumored to be giving you soon
> in Vista SP1)--this is a good move on the part of Dell but unfortunately
> Greedy MSFT and Greedy 300 other OEM Named partners have continued to
> chicken out in this reguard denying an OS DVD to the customers who make
> them very rich. I think that's the gold standard for how concerned MSFT
> is for their end users who don't have enterprise means of installing Win
> RE. However, in a pang of conscience moving in the right direction many
> reports say that Vista SP1 will have the ability for anyone to install Win
> RE.
>
> I would like to point out though if you're a dude buyin' a Dell as I have
> about 50 times on this group that Dell says they are providing a Vista DVD
> and if you're spending several hundred/a thousand dollars for a box from
> them I'd sure ask them to send one.
>
> If you need some amunition before you pay them, here it is. Here's Dell
> saying they are shipping a Vista DVD with each and every Dell box: (in
> defiance of the greedy company called MSFT who makes over a hundred bucks
> for Vista preinstalls) and had the idea before putting it in Vista SP1
> that they would deprive their end users in the millions of Win RE in
> Vista.
>
> [url]http://direct2dell.com/one2one/archive/2006/10/17/3132.aspx[/url]
>
> If I am reading correctly this says:
>
> "Other users have expressed concern about not having the operating system
> reinstallation CD when they need it...
>
> Update: Thanks to Direct2Dell reader Steven and a couple of Dell employees
> for pointing out a mistake I made in my original post. When I wrote this,
> the OS media was listed as an option in the configurator for $0. I
> mis-read the number, and for that mistake, I apologize. Also, though this
> been in the works for some time before now, it's now official. For U.S.
> consumer and small business customers, all systems will now ship with an
> operating system disc. This change will take effect in Europe by later
> next month. In Asia, things are unchanged—we've always shipped OS discs
> with systems there."
>
> And at
>
> Lionel Menchaca, Digital Media Manager said:
>
> [url]http://direct2dell.com/one2one/archive/2006/10/17/3132.aspx#3187[/url]
>
> Update: Good news—just confirmed with software folks that the PC Restore
> utility will remain intact. All Dimension and Inspiron systems will now
> come with the OS disc and the PC Restore utility.
>
>
> October 19, 2006 10:20 PM
>
> Happy Dual Booting Andy, and call Dell and make sure they send you an OS
> DVD regardless of the fact they are making Win RE available as they should
> have long ago in Vista SP1.
>
> [url]http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_install_04.asp[/url]
>
> CH
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> "Andy" <andy@indigo.ie> wrote in message
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>> Will be getting a new Dell PC soon with Windows Vista preloaded on it
>> (Doubt if it will come with a Vista installation CD). What I want to know
>> is if I can easily install Windows XP and leave the Vista intact and just
>> chose at startup of PC whether to use Vista or XP? - I think they call it
>> dual booting isn't it?
>>
>> But I don't really want to go formatting and partitioning the hard drive
>> if I can avoid it to do this.
>>
>> Many thanks,
>>
>> Andy.
>>
>>
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