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Old 06-17-2004, 08:12 PM
Josh Einstein
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Re: Moving vertical scrollbars from Right to Left Side of Windows

Okay that's respectable. But then I won't admit I am wrong. :) I will try to
get a technical explanation of this issue from the MS guys then, because as
a windows developer, I see no reason why this is not possible. Scrollbars
are nonclient areas which means the OS is responsible for creating them.
Just as apps aren't affected by XP skinning them, so should they not be
affected by orientation change.

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"Chris H." <winxpnews********.com> wrote in message
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> Josh, I won't debate with you what Microsoft developers have said.
> Certain programs can do certain things, like I pointed out with OneNote
> currently (SP1 form), but the entire operating system is another issue.
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> Chris H.
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> "Josh Einstein" <josheinstein********.com> wrote in message
> news:e3XeWFNVEHA.264@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> That's not true. Things like multiline text boxes and html pages have
>> scrollbars by default. Developers don't do anything special to create
>> them.
>>
>> If the operating system simply rendered them on the left, the developer
>> wouldn't have to do anything differently. If you can give me an example
>> of something that would break, I will admit I'm wrong.
>>
>> Take a look at the IE menu I described. If they can draw a scrollbar on
>> the left when I click a menu, then why not always?
>>
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>> Josh Einstein
>> Einstein Technologies
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>> "Chris H." <winxpnews********.com> wrote in message
>> news:u97nRpMVEHA.3016@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>> Josh, as Terri has said, and I tried to impart in my response, Microsoft
>>> has dealt with this issue for years. Bill Gates is left-handed. An
>>> example is Microsoft can set this up for $50,000 investment for
>>> research, development and adjustments on its current programs and
>>> operating systems.
>>>
>>> The other software companies around the world would need to spend
>>> millions or billions of dollars to revamp/rewrite their software to
>>> comply.
>>>
>>> Guess what the prudent approach is Microsoft has chosen to take until
>>> the Longhorn timeframe?
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>>> Chris H.
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>>> Associate Expert
>>> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
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>>> "Josh Einstein" <josheinstein********.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%23IZK4$LVEHA.1652@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>>> In Internet Explorer, click the View Menu -> Encoding -> Right to Left
>>>> Document.
>>>>
>>>> It messes up the way some things look unfortunately, and it has to be
>>>> set for each page. Web designers can apply this to individual DIV's too
>>>> which Spencer Goad has done on his web site (www.tabletpcbuzz.com) so
>>>> if you wanna check that out, go into the profile after you've become a
>>>> member and change your handedness to left handed.
>>>>
>>>> So the ability is technically there. It's just a matter of changing the
>>>> base controls. I can't forsee any major impact this would have on
>>>> existing applications so if it's a very necessary feature, MS should be
>>>> able to easily implement it.
>>>>
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>>>> Josh Einstein
>>>> Einstein Technologies
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>>>

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Old 06-17-2004, 08:12 PM