Lang Murphy wrote:[color=blue]
> I've said it many time before, and I'll say it again... nix ain't ready for
> "Joe Normal."
>
> Sorry, I forget the person who suggested I try PCLinuxOS, and, that said, I
> d/l'd it today and installed it on a desktop. (Tried installing it on a
> laptop with a wireless NIC, but, uh, no go?)
>
> So I installed PCLOS, as it's called, on a desktop. Install went OK. Got to
> the desktop fine. Where's the Network icon? None. How does one access the
> local network? Ah, open "My Computer". Heh, heh, heh... then open "Remote
> Places." Then open "Local Network", only to receive the msg "The Lisa daemon
> does not appear to be running. In order to use the LAN browser, the Lisa
> daemon must be installed and activated by the system administrator."
>
> Uh, OK... where does one go from here? (NOT looking for answers from nix
> folks, it's a rhetorical question.)
>
> Is it so hard to put a "Network" icon on the desktop?
>
> Is it so hard to have that functionality be transparent to the user? Is the
> "Joe Normal" user going to know how to log on as administrator and install
> and activate the Lisa daemon? Uh, no?
>
> OK... this may appear to be an attack on nix... it's not, believe me. Were
> one to have the time to determine how to install and activate the Lisa
> daemon... well, no issue, right? One can figure it out -eventually-, right?
>
> And, of course, I'm not saying that Vista is "issue free." That said... when
> I install Vista, I get a "Network" icon on the desktop that takes me right
> to the stuff I'm tryng to access. No "install Lisa daemon" stuff...
>
> So, yeah, Vista's not "issue free." We all know it, and I'd be a dope to
> claim otherwise.
>
> And I -am- most interested in trying different nix distros; ones that might
> be considered "Joe Normal" friendly.
>
> Have yet to discover -that- nix distro.
>
> And, no, don't tell me Ubutnu. Been there, done that.
>
> Lang[/color]

Why didn't you email me? All the questions you have can be
answered by google, too. It's okay to ask questions when you're
not sure what needs to be done, there are forums and websites-
just like there are for Vista and all Windows' products.

Your experience with PCLinuxOS, or any Linux flavor for that
matter, may take some readjustments..... just like Window users
getting used to Vista- it's really not much different in the way one
has to retrain the brain/habits/familiarity. Perhaps, the terminologies
and placement of tools takes a bit getting used to in Linux compared
to Windows, and that should be expected after dealing with a
Windows world for so long. It's like moving to a new city and not
being able to find your way around, but eventually you do. Don't
let unfamiliar surroundings keep you from seeing and enjoying the sites.
Unfortunately, for many they only ever "visit" Linux as a tourist, and never
really get the true experience or really learn how to navigate around....
they miss a lot and make far too many assumptions based on the Windows
world they came from. They cut their visit short and leave. In reality, Linux
can offer them the exact same things that they believe only exist in their
gated Windows community.

No, I haven't left Windows megalopolis, yet. But, I sure do get out
a lot more often than I ever did, and I've really started enjoying the
nice and comfortable ride... not many car-jackings around these parts,
either. The scenery is looking better all the time, too.


Take care,

Michael

P.S.
Lang, let me know if you need a lift... there's plenty of room. :-)