Ok. After extensive research I have now concluded this:

1. We are Registered Microsoft Partners and subscribe to Action Pack

2. Received latest AP update and it included Vista R2 and Office 2007 R2

3. After Installing both Vista and Office 2007 found numerous BUGS like
cannot save or open files.

4. Suggested in this forum that Vista R1 would correct this

5. But R1 is not available for download unless you are a MSDN or Technet
Subscriber.

6. So Microsoft includes Vist R2 and Office 2007 R2 with Action Pack but no
R1 before its release?

What was the point shipping both Vista R2 and Office 2007 R2 together with
Action Pack if it was discovered that together without R1 they are WORTHLESS.
In addition to this Office 2007 were missing their respective Key Codes for
Action Pack (used the beta download key).

This is extremely Frustrating and has caused a serious waste of Company Time.
--
Kokkos Industries, Inc.


"Terje Alexander Barth" wrote:
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> >"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote
> >All the Vista versions have their advantages and none are universally
> >"better".[/color]
>
> "A More feature rich product",
> "Gives you more options",
> "A richer experience",
> "Support more hardware",
> "Extends to your Xbox360",
> "Supports your in the Business AND at Home",
> "Gives you all the tools",
> "The most expensive operating system you can buy"
>
> Certainly the sum of all or some of these 'traits' could earn
> it the title "Better","Ultimate" if you will.
>
> Although it DOES come at a higher cost.
>
> So we are just arguing what we mean when we say something is "Better".
> You might say "The better product is the one that meets the customers
> current demands at the lowest price" whereas someone else might say
> "the better product is the one with the most features".
>
> The best choice does not have to be the better product. :-)
>
>[color=green]
> >"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote[color=darkred]
> >>"Now tell me in what way Windows Vista Starter Edition is better than
> >>Windows Vista Ultimate."[/color]
> >The fact you even asked this question shows you miss or ignore some of the
> >basics.[/color]
>
> I should have added somewhere in that sentence; "for you".
> And even if one knows all the facts it is still possible to
> ask someone for their opinion on the subject.
>
> Tourist: "Is this the way to rome?" --
> Person["rank"]: "The fact that you even asked this question shows you miss or
> ignore the basic fact that 'all roads lead to rome'."
>
> I could rephrase the question to "Show me how/why you think I am wrong."
>
>[color=green]
> >"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote
> >"less features" is not always bad especially when those features are not
> >needed. The Starter version can and probably is a far better option for many[/color]
>
> For example?
>
>[color=green]
> >"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote
> >similarly other versions will better meet the needs of the informed buyer
> >than Ultimate.[/color]
>
> For example?
>
>[color=green]
> >"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote
> >Clearly Ultimate is not the best for everyone.[/color]
>
> Now you are making a statement without backing it up with anything,
> an example for (sigh) example, at least I provided a URL. :-)
>
>[color=green]
> >"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote
> >Have you considered price?[/color]
>
> Does price decide if a product can be called better than another?
> Cheaper or More Expensive surely, but better?
>
> I do believe I considered price on some level, but it was far in
> the back of my mind.
>
>[color=green]
> >"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote
> >Many have no need for the extra features and thus have no need to spend the
> >$ for Ultimate when other versions will meet the needs.[/color]
>
> The "average joe" customer will say:
> "at this moment, with the money taken into account, product Y is the best
> choice for me, but I know that product X has more features and can be
> called a better one; so I vow today; I shall work hard at the steel mill,
> so that in the end, one day, may it come soon, I can buy Vista Ultimate."
>
> The "good" consultant will say:
> "Based on your requirements and current needs we suggest you pick option Z"
>
> The "good" salesman will say:
> "Ultimate! It has everything, WOHOOO!!! High Five!"
>
>[color=green]
> >"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote
> >An informed buyer will not miss the missing features since they will not be
> >needed anyways, but they will keep some of their $.[/color]
>
> And when the time comes that the informed buyer requires some of
> these missing features (that will not be needed anyways)
> what will they do then, what will become of them?
>
>[color=green]
> >"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote
> > Your "personal view" seems to be flawed since it seems to ignore price and
> > features gained by the added , many of which unneeded by most.
> > Perhaps the statement would have been more accurate if you had placed "for
> > me" in the sentence
> >[/color]
>
> How can a personal view be flawed if that view ignores the price?
>
> Since I am making the statement, obviously it is for me and there should be
> no need to add "for me" to any statements *I* make.
>
> If I decided to sign with a professional title or other "credit" it might be
> appropriate to add "for me", "based on my experience", "After 7 years of testing
> I have come to the conclusion that... " and similar..
> But since I dont sign that way, I dont have to add anything else either
> I could just be a hillbilly talking FUD.
>
>
>
> ---
> ///Terje Alexander Barth
> \\\///[/color]