CH,

And... might one not consider that the MSDN and Tech guys paid pretty
serious money to be in those programs? CPP was totally free. I sure didn't
stick a 12 gauge, or any other gauge gun, in anyone's cakehole to get them
to try Vista for free. So now all the malcontents that've been bitching
about Vista want a free copy. Hahahaha.

I mean... I'm sure there are CPP guys and gals who deserve a free copy.
Maybe MS should create a different set of requirements for those folks to
get a free copy. And not publish it to the world. Although I'm sure if they
did that, change the requirements, the requirements would get out and those
that just missed them would be most put out. I don't know... just rambling
at this point.... but I am sure there are CPP folks who probably deserve a
free copy. Doubt that Ballmer would agree with that, though...

I got the RTM code and installed it on 3 work PC's. I'd love to get a free
copy, as a TBT, to upgrade my personal PC. Time'll tell...

Lang



"Chad Harris" <Vista RTM is really Beta 1.net> wrote in message
news:eo8pfS2CHHA.1012@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Richard--
>
> Sounds like play to me. What about all those cry babies on the
> Vista/Longhorn Beta group Cafe and General groups posting hundreds of
> times
> a week "Mommy Mommy Wendy pullleasssse gimme a new build. What work ethic
> was that?
>
> It looked like Pre-School 101 to me. Think any of them were housebroken?
>
> BTW every one of these people felt like they were part of a chosen tribe
> and
> this psychology was fed by MSFT. I missed the scenario where any of them
> had a 12 gauge shotgun stuffed in their mouth and forced to test. Help me
> find that one.
>
> CH
>
>
> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote in message
> news:%233hRqezCHHA.4464@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> "Jon Acord" <JOn@theacords.biz> wrote in message
>> news:53678CBE-647E-45B3-A516-7B6548691DF8@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
>>> It's been a long road helping Micro$oft beta test Vi$ta. I've been
>>> doing
>>> it
>>> since it was called Longhorn. I have submitted Just under a dozen bug
>>> reports. I have installed and uninstalled it more times than I care to
>>> remember in my zeal and enthusiasm. I have believed in this product
>>> when
>>> no
>>> one else did. When I hear that Micro$oft is giving away 'complimentary'
>>> copies only to MSDN and TechNet subscribers I felt as if someone had
>>> slapped
>>> my face. So, just because I tested Vi$ta VIA the customer preview
>>> program
>>> I
>>> am screwed out of my gift? I feel I have earned a copy. You mean,
>>> because I
>>> did not pay Micro$oft a $600.00 subscription fee to beta test and better
>>> their software I am beneath their notice? This is typical of a large,
>>> bloated, corporate monster that does not care one iota about the people
>>> who
>>> made them their most precious $$$. This proves that Micro$oft does not
>>> have
>>> a heart, all they care about is money.
>>>
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>>> "I
>>> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
>>> this
>>> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and
>>> then
>>> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>>>
>>> [url]http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.mspx?mid=53678cbe-647e-45b3-a516-7b6548691df8&dg=microsoft.public.windows.vista.general[/url][/color]
>>
>>
>>
>> You are "NOT" a beta tester unless you signed on as such. Getting Vista
>> from the CCP site was just an opportunity for you to try it out. Some
>> true
>> beta testers were reloading their operating systems on an almost daily
>> basis. It took a lot of work, no play. They had to dedicate a large part
>> of their daily hours to this task (not play).
>>
>> I know of one fellow who sometimes loaded 2 times a day when he got word
>> of a newer version.
>>
>> Again, you are owed NOTHING - period!
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Richard Urban
>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>>
>> Quote from George Ankner:
>> If you knew as much as you think you know,
>> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
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>
>
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