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Old 01-02-2007, 07:07 AM
swiftflo
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Re: HP Print Drivers Response

I can confirm that this works,I have a 7960 Photosmart and the driver for
this does not show up in Vista RC2, so I installed the driver for the 7800
and it works, although does not show my ink cartridge levels.
"Jo" <Jo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:56D2FA29-5A8D-407A-B9F7-7CBA3652ECC3@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
>I don't know if this will help you, but I actually got my Photosmart 1115
>to
> install in Vista by force installing the drivers for the 7800 series
> photosmart that are included with Vista. I got this suggestion from
> another
> user of this newsgroup and it worked! I can now print from the HP and so
> far
> it has worked, though I haven't tried it from every possible program.
>
> "Tim" wrote:
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>> Jimmy,
>>
>> Maybe you can help me...I'm trying to install HP Printer driver and
>> software. I'm logged in as Administrator and running RC2. The install
>> fails
>> with an error of "Can't use 'run as administrator' to install this
>> software".
>> It gives the same error if I actually use the "run as administrator"
>> switch
>> to run it.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> "Jimmy Brush" wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > I've noticed that a lot of the questions in these newsgroups are either
>> > directly or indirectly related to UAC (User Account Control). In this
>> > post,
>> > I will go over what UAC does, how it works, the reasoning behind it,
>> > how to
>> > use your computer with UAC on, why you shouldn't turn UAC off, and
>> > answer
>> > some common questions and respond to common complaints about it.
>> >
>> >
>> > * What is UAC and what does it do?
>> >
>> > UAC mode (also known as Admin Approval Mode) is a mode of operation
>> > that
>> > (primarily) affects the way administrator accounts work.
>> >
>> > When UAC is turned on (which it is by default), you must explicitly
>> > give
>> > permission to any program that wants to use "administrator" powers. Any
>> > program that tries to use admin powers without your permission will be
>> > denied access.
>> >
>> >
>> > * How does UAC work
>> >
>> > When UAC mode is enabled, every program that you run will be given only
>> > "standard user" access to the system, even when you are logged in as an
>> > administrator. There are only 2 ways that a program can be "elevated"
>> > to get
>> > full admin access to the system:
>> >
>> > - If it automatically asks you for permission when it starts up, and
>> > you
>> > click Continue
>> > - If you start the program with permission by right-clicking it, then
>> > clicking Run As Administrator
>> >
>> > A program either starts with STANDARD rights or, if you give
>> > permission,
>> > ADMINISTRATOR rights, and once the program is running it cannot change
>> > from
>> > one to the other.
>> >
>> > If a program that you have already started with admin powers starts
>> > another
>> > program, that program will automatically be given admin powers without
>> > needing your permission. For example, if you start Windows Explorer as
>> > administrator, and then double-click on a text file, notepad will open
>> > and
>> > display the contents of the text file. Since notepad was opened from
>> > the
>> > admin explorer window, notepad WILL ALSO automatically run WITH admin
>> > powers, and will not ask for permission.
>> >
>> >
>> > * What's the point of UAC?
>> >
>> > UAC is designed to put control of your computer back into your hands,
>> > instead of at the mercy of the programs running on your computer.
>> >
>> > When logged in as an administrator in Windows XP, any program that
>> > could
>> > somehow get itself started could take control of the entire computer
>> > without
>> > you even knowing about it.
>> >
>> > With UAC turned on, you must know about and authorize a program in
>> > order for
>> > it to gain admin access to the system, REGARDLESS of how the program
>> > got
>> > there or how it is started.
>> >
>> > This is important to all levels of users - from home users to
>> > enterprise
>> > administrators. Being alerted when any program tries to use admin
>> > powers and
>> > being able to unilaterally disallow a program from having such power is
>> > a
>> > VERY powerful ability. No longer is the security of the system
>> > tantamount to
>> > "crossing one's fingers and hoping for the best" - YOU now control your
>> > system.
>> >
>> >
>> > * How do I effectively use my computer with UAC turned on?
>> >
>> > It's easy. Just keep in mind that programs don't have admin access to
>> > your
>> > computer unless you give them permission. Microsoft programs that come
>> > with
>> > Windows Vista that need admin access will always ask for admin
>> > permissions
>> > when you start them. However, most other programs will not.
>> >
>> > This will change after Windows Vista is released - all Windows
>> > Vista-era
>> > programs that need admin power will always ask you for it. Until then,
>> > you
>> > will need to run programs that need administrative powers that were not
>> > designed for Windows Vista "as administrator".
>> >
>> > Command-line programs do not automatically ask for permission. Not even
>> > the
>> > built-in ones. You will need to run the command prompt "as
>> > administrator" in
>> > order to run administrative command-line utilities.
>> >
>> > Working with files and folders from Windows Explorer can be a real pain
>> > when
>> > you are not working with your own files. When you are needing to work
>> > with
>> > system files, files that you didn't create, or files from another
>> > operating
>> > system, run Windows Explorer "as administrator". In the same vein, ANY
>> > program that you run that needs access to system files or files that
>> > you
>> > didn't create will need to be ran "as administrator".
>> >
>> > If you are going to be working with the control panel for a long time,
>> > running control.exe "as administrator" will make things less painful -
>> > you
>> > will only be asked for permission once, instead of every time you try
>> > to
>> > change a system-wide setting.
>> >
>> > In short:
>> >
>> > - Run command prompt as admin when you need to run admin utilities
>> > - Run setup programs as admin
>> > - Run programs not designed for Vista as admin if (and only if) they
>> > need
>> > admin access
>> > - Run Windows Explorer as admin when you need access to files that
>> > aren't
>> > yours or system files
>> > - Run programs that need access to files that aren't yours or system
>> > files
>> > as admin
>> > - Run control.exe as admin when changing many settings in the control
>> > panel
>> >
>> >
>> > * UAC is annoying, I want to turn it off
>> >
>> > Having to go through an extra step (clicking Continue) when opening
>> > administrative programs is annoying. And it is also very frustrating to
>> > run
>> > a program that needs admin power but doesn't automatically ask you for
>> > it
>> > (you have to right-click these programs and click Run As Administrator
>> > for
>> > them to run correctly).
>> >
>> > But, keep in mind that these small inconveniences are insignificant
>> > when
>> > weighed against the benefit: NO PROGRAM can get full access to your
>> > system
>> > without you being informed. The first time the permission dialog pops
>> > up and
>> > it is from some program that you know nothing about or that you do not
>> > want
>> > to have access to your system, you will be very glad that the Cancel
>> > button
>> > was available to you.
>> >
>> >
>> > * Answers to common questions and responses to common criticism
>> >
>> > Q: I have anti-virus, a firewall, a spyware-detector, or something
>> > similar.
>> > Why do I need UAC?
>> >
>> > A: Detectors can only see known threats. And of all the known threats
>> > in
>> > existence, they only detect the most common of those threats. With UAC
>> > turned on, *you* control what programs have access to your computer -
>> > you
>> > can stop ALL threats. Detectors are nice, but they're not enough. How
>> > many
>> > people do you know that have detectors of all kinds and yet are still
>> > infested with programs that they don't want on their computer? Everyone
>> > that
>> > I have ever helped falls into this category.
>> >
>> >
>> > Q: Does UAC replace anti-virus, a firewall, a spyware-detector, or
>> > similar
>> > programs?
>> >
>> > A: No. Microsoft recommends that you use a virus scanner and/or other
>> > types
>> > of security software. These types of programs compliment UAC: They will
>> > get
>> > rid of known threats for you. UAC will allow you to stop unknown
>> > threats, as
>> > well as prevent any program that you do not trust from gaining access
>> > to
>> > your computer.
>> >
>> >
>> > Q: I am a system administrator - I have no use for UAC.
>> >
>> > A: Really? You don't NEED to know when a program on your computer runs
>> > with
>> > admin powers? You are a system administrator and you really could care
>> > less
>> > when a program runs that has full control of your system, and possibly
>> > your
>> > entire domain? You're joking, right?
>> >
>> >
>> > Q: UAC keeps me from accessing files and folders
>> >
>> > A: No, it doesn't - UAC protects you from programs that would try to
>> > delete
>> > or modify system files and folders without your knowledge. If you want
>> > a
>> > program to have full access to the files on your computer, you will
>> > need to
>> > run it as admin. Or as an alternative, if possible, put the files it
>> > needs
>> > access to in a place that all programs have access to - such as your
>> > documents folder, or any folder under your user folder.
>> >
>> >
>> > Q: UAC stops programs from working correctly
>> >
>> > A: If a program needs admin power and it doesn't ask you for permission
>> > when
>> > it starts, you have to give it admin powers by right-clicking it and
>> > clicking Run As Administrator. Programs should work like they did in XP
>> > when
>> > you use Run As Administrator. If they don't, then this is a bug.
>> >
>> >
>> > Q: UAC keeps me from doing things that I could do in XP
>> >
>> > A: This is not the case. Just remember that programs that do not ask
>> > for
>> > permission when they start do not get admin access to your computer. If
>> > you
>> > are using a tool that needs admin access, right-click it and click Run
>> > As
>> > Administrator. It should work exactly as it did in XP. If it does not,
>> > then
>> > this is a bug.
>> >
>> >
>> > Q: UAC is Microsoft's way of controlling my computer and preventing me
>> > from
>> > using it!
>> >
>> > A: This is 100% UNTRUE. UAC puts control of your computer IN YOUR HANDS
>> > by
>> > allowing you to prevent unwanted programs from accessing your computer.
>> > *Everything* that you can do with UAC turned off, you can do with it
>> > turned
>> > on. If this is not the case, then that is a bug.
>> >
>> >
>> > Q: I don't need Windows to hold my freaking hand! I *know* what I've
>> > got on
>> > my computer, and I *know* when programs run! I am logged on as an
>> > ADMINISTRATOR for a dang reason!
>> >
>> > A: I accept the way that you think, and can see the logic, but I don't
>> > agree
>> > with this idea. UAC is putting POWER in your hands by letting you
>> > CONTROL
>> > what runs on your system. But you want to give up this control and
>> > allow all
>> > programs to run willy-nilly. Look, if you want to do this go right
>> > ahead,
>> > you can turn UAC off and things will return to how they worked in XP.
>> > But,
>> > don't be surprised when either 1) You run something by mistake that
>> > messes
>> > up your computer and/or domain, or 2) A program somehow gets on your
>> > computer that you know nothing about that takes over your computer
>> > and/or
>> > domain, and UAC would have allowed you to have stopped it.
>> >
>> >
>> > - JB
>> >
>> > Vista Support FAQ
>> > [url]http://www.jimmah.com/vista/[/url]
>> >[/color][/color][/color]

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