I don't think the problem is that it isn't easy, the problem is he couldn't
get Ubuntu to access his windows boxes, which I think Ubuntu/Linux claims it
can do.

I had Ubuntu installed, I wanted to run it on my 1080p HDTV, but could not
get it to output to 1080p without figuring out the whole modeline thing. It
was a real pain. I switched to FC6, and the system booted into 1080p mode
with no tinkering.

One problem resolved.

I bought a PVR-150 card for TV Capture, turns out Hauppauge now ships
HVR-1600 cards in place of the old PVR-150 card. Unfortunatly ivtv (the
linux driver for these cards) does not support the card (dispite the
striking similarities to the pvr-150 from an outside POV), and the driver
writters have stated they aren't planning to write a driver for the card.
(took me a good day of tinkering and internet searching to figure out what
the problem was). What to do, what to do. Well I finally bought a second
PVR-150 card, and used the newer HVR-1600 card in my Vista machine.

Point being, Linux is just a pain in the ass to setup. Sure you can install
the thing easily enough assuming you're using common hardware, but as soon
as you get some weird/new hardware, even if the hardware is similar to other
hardware, you are just outta luck.

I wish I was a better programmer so I could write my own drivers, but I'm
not. Vista doesn't require that I know how to program to get everything
working. Microsoft has gone quite far in that area I guess.

Yes, I like Linux, it's cool and fun to play around with, and i'd give
anything if Linux would just work as easily as it is to install, but it
doesn't (for me at my skill level), which is too bad. Oh, and i'm a gamer,
and i'm sorry folks, but Wine doesn't cut it either. (yet) Maybe some new
libs to combat the DirectX dominance would help?

-A.

"Dustin Harper" <dharper@vistarip.com> wrote in message
news:eSoSitRVHHA.996@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Oh boy. I've worked with Linux, and Ubuntu is about the EASIEST to use. If
> he can't figure it out, then there IS something wrong with the user,
> especially if he calls himself a tech journalist. He needs a new job. He
> sounds more like a Linux basher, and the media usually wins in things like
> this.
>
> I prefer Windows, as Linux isn't ready for the desktop or gaming, but for
> a server it has it's purpose.
>
>
>
> --
> Dustin Harper
> dharper@vistarip.com
> http://www.vistarip.com
>
> --
> <royschestowitz******.com> wrote in message
> news:1171993587.208455.132750@q2g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> Here we go again :(
> So much for Linux *killing* Microsoft Vista.
>
> What a joke.
> So how long has Linux been around? Maybe 12 years or more?
> So why is Linux still as user unfriendly and hostile as it was 12
> years ago?
>
> When tech journalists can't even get Linux, in this case Ubuntu, to
> work there is something seriously wrong with Linux.
>
> Of course we all know the Linux cultists will blame the user, call him
> an idiot etc.
>
> With Linux, it always seems to be the users fault.
>
> http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37742
>
> "Quite an impressive start for a piece of free software, I think
> you'll agree. But (and you just knew there was a 'but' coming, didn't
> you?) then the wheels started to come off. Despite it being the latest
> ISO image I could find, the first thing the system did when it saw the
> Web was to download 104 updates - roughly 60 per cent more than a new
> install of Windows XP SP2 asks for."
>
> "Well, I've only been playing with computers since 1972 and I couldn't
> make it work. Linux can see the Windows boxes and vice versa, but any
> attempt to access files is met with a login dialogue box that refuses
> any username and password I enter. Now my learned friends tell me I
> should be using something called Wine. I've been a heavy user of wine
> for many years and it certainly helped relax me but did absolutely
> nothing for my connectivity dilemma."
>
> "So I've done what any normal person would do in the circumstances -
> give up. If the awfully-clever people who write bits of open source
> code can't make it work automatically, I stand absolutely no chance of
> fixing it. It looks very much to me as if people clever enough to
> write an entire operating system can't make a simple bit of networking
> work, it has to be a deliberate marketing decision rather than a lack
> of ability."
>
> "The Ubuntu box now awaits rebirth as another Windows XP machine. I
> have neither the time nor the inclination to persevere with its
> perversity. Maybe I'll try Linux again in another ten years. Maybe by
> then it will have grown up. µ
> "
>
>
> And another Linux Distribution ends up as a coaster.
> This seems to be all to common an experience and it might account for
> the fact that Linux still hovers around less than 1 percent of the
> desktop market share.
>