In the second paragraph, make that one difference read: "The new ways in WMP
11" instead of "The new ways in Vista." The new ways in Vista actually are
improvements. The new ways in WMP 11 are not.

Dale

"Dale" <nospam@nospam.ever> wrote in message
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> You know, there's nothing wrong with having to learn a new way to do old
> things. Windows Vista is an example of that. They didn't lock themselves
> into supporting how we were used to doing things and, as a result, they
> have made some great improvements in usability. Of course, for some of us
> who have been using Windows since version 1 have a greater learning curve
> than even new users because we're old and set in our ways.
>
> WMP 11 could fit into the same category: new ways of doing things without
> being held back by supporting the old ways. There's just one difference.
> The new ways in Vista, while being different, are not improvements.
> They're just plain unintuitive and a pain in the butt. This is not the
> rantings of a 51 year old man who just can't change with the times. I
> like Vista from a usability standpoint - for the most part.
>
> In fact, in some ways, I think Vista was not change enough; I'd love to
> see a new OS created to take advantage of all the latest hardware without
> any consideration to "backwards compatibility" at all. Maybe this was
> the approach the WMP 11 product team was taking: a new way to do things
> without being hindered by trying to support the old way. The only problem
> is, the new ways in WMP just plain don't work for too many users. When
> they changed how we do things, they should have changed for the better
> instead of simply making it either harder or impossible.
>
> The bottom line is that you're going to purchase WMP 11 anyway. They
> don't have to make it work. 70 million users will buy it next year as
> part of their purchase of Windows Vista. Another 70 million will probably
> download it as an "upgrade" to WMP 10. Since you do not have the option
> to not purchase WMP 11 unless you live in the EU, they do not have to make
> it something you would actually choose to buy. That's why they put more
> developer emphasis in the online stores than they did in functionality,
> reliability, and usability.
>
> Dale
> "BB" <BB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>> They slip it in on you by surprise by making it look like a simple update
>> to
>> MP 10.
>>
>> Then you get this horrible Player that is a big pain to use.
>>
>> For some stupid reason they have made it more difficult to simply play an
>> album or a song.
>>
>> You used to be able to scroll down to the album you wanted using a simple
>> standard menu system. Now you have to scroll through 2 controls.
>>
>>
>> What is the reason for making it more difficult to use? This doesn't make
>> sense.
>>
>>
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