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Old 01-19-2007, 07:45 AM
Bill Hobson
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Re: BSOD 00000116 Vista Ultimate/Try This.

The Startup Repair Problems found no problems.

There is nothing in the directory: C:\Windows\System32\Restore - probably
because one of our admins decided to turn off System Restore by policy.

And, Last Known Good Configuration starts up , but the problem with the
Event Log service remains.

In addition, when I leave my desk, I lock my Vista machine - CTRL-ALT-DEL
and then Enter when it finally responds. The next time I try to unlock, I
get mixed results - sometimes the screen stays black, I hit CTRL-ALT-DEL and
put in my password and hit return and then the screen starts diaplaying.
Sometimes, I never get any video to my monitors - the machines hard dirve
grinds away, but never comes back to any video. And sometimes, the first
time I hit CTRL-ALT-DEL, I get video right away.

Without any other evidence, I am beginning to think that the BSOD is a bad
driver from ATI. I have a Radeon X300 video card driving 2 monitors and a
Radeon X1300 card driving a third monitor - all PCI Express cards.

So many problems, so little to go on. I wish that MS would publish their
error codes - at least I would have some more information.

I will go digging on ATI's site and see if there are newer drivers, but it
has been less than a month since I was there looking.


"Chad Harris" <fixvista-itneedsit.net> wrote in message
news:ulBEB51OHHA.3268@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Bill--
>
> Does this statement mean
>
> "In the case of Startup Repair Problems, or all of the rest of the
> options wipe everything or require a
> full backup that it will restore"
>
> that you knocked on all the doors I wanted you to try--i.e.
>
> You put in the DVD and tried the link for Recovery Options>Startup Repair
> and System restore there--because I want to underscore the fact Bill that
> sometimes System Restore from there will work when system restore will not
> work from the F8 options. It might theoretically be the same system
> restore (group of registry snapshots, but I have seen that happen
> repeatdly with Vista).
>
> Also be sure to try the F8 options if that doesn't work. I'd like to
> avoid your having to format or losing anything if possible.
>
> Thanks,
>
> CH
>
>
>
>
> "Bill Hobson" <Ihatespamb-hobson@tamu.edu> wrote in message
> news:C4E400A5-CEAE-47CF-8202-AFEDA4724173@microsoft.com...
>> Oh well, it doesn't matter anyway - there is no repair optio that Vista
>> will let me perform that either does nothing - in the case of Repai
>> Startup Problems, or all of the rest of the options wipe everything or
>> require a full backup that it will restore.
>> C:\Windows\System32\restore is empty - no executable to run. So I guess I
>> am FUBAR! Wipe it all out and start over.
>>
>> This is why we are not moving our users to Vista any time soon - I am
>> just putting it through it's paces on my workstation as a LAN
>> Administrator to find out all the warts before deploying. If the troubles
>> I have had so far are any indication, it will at least be after SP1 is
>> released. And a lot of applications are fixed where they work too. Sigh!
>>
>>
>> "Chad Harris" <fixvista-itneedsit.net> wrote in message
>> news:u3i2HPyOHHA.4372@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Bill--
>>>
>>> There are two main avenues to try--Startup Repair and System Restore
>>> from the Recovery link in setup using your Vista DVD, or Windows F8
>>> Advanced Options reached by tapping your F8 key on a restart.
>>>
>>> You may get some help by typing eventvwr.msc in the run box and then
>>> clicking on "system" and looking for error messages. But regardless,
>>> you can try to use F8 options or a startup repair to gix this. Startup
>>> Repair can also be used in situations that are not no boot windows
>>> situations, so MSFT has managed to name it ambiguously.. You have two
>>> avenues in Vista. You could try the traditional F8 "Windows Advanced
>>> Options" menu, with 4 Safe Mode doors that access System Restore, one
>>> requiring you to know the command to reach it (Safe Mode with Command)
>>> and from their new Win RE Startup Repair. Last Known Good Configuration
>>> or LKG is also at the Windows F8 Advanced Options menu You might want
>>> to try Startup Repair first, but I wouldn't leave any of these options
>>> exausted. That's the most common mistake I see that results in faile
>>> repairs and formats that never needed to happen.
>>>
>>> Note: I am seeing repeatedly that system restore from F8 may not work
>>> when system restore from the Recovery Link on the Vista DVD setup will
>>> work. But you should try Startup Repair first, then try System Restore
>>> from there if StR does not work.
>>>
>>> ***WINDOWS F8 ADVANCED OPTIONS MENU (Available in XP and Works in
>>> Vista***
>>>
>>> I have put every KB that contexts these
>>> options here for you to look at if you need to.
>>>
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserv...r/default.mspx
>>>
>>> ***Your first five options****
>>>
>>> These options to recover in Vista are similar to XP although System
>>> Restore
>>> is based on a system now from server technology.
>>>
>>> 1) I'd use the F8 options including the 4 safe modes to try to system
>>> restore and I would use Last Known Good Configuration if they don't
>>> work. I say four safe mode options, because sometimes one works when
>>> another will not:
>>>
>>> If you use safe mode command, the command for system restore is:
>>>
>>> %systemroot%\system32\restore\rstrui.exe
>>>
>>> This approach in Vista is the same as in XP and is based on Chapter 28
>>> of
>>> the XP resource kit and will soon be adapted to the Vista Resource Kit.
>>> The
>>> MSKB that outlines this is here--yes it has XP in the title but these
>>> options are available in Vista :
>>>
>>> Resources for troubleshooting startup problems in Windows XP [and Vista]
>>>
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...&Product=winxp
>>>
>>> For Anxillary Reference in Vista: System recovery and reliability for
>>> IT
>>> Pros
>>> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...a3fc41033.mspx
>>>
>>> What to Do if Windows Vista Won't Start Correctly
>>> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...8b3551033.mspx
>>>
>>> A description of the Safe Mode Boot options in Windows XP
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315222/
>>>
>>>
>>> How to Use System Restore from a Command Prompt
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/279736/en-us
>>>
>>> How to start your computer by using the Last Known Good Configuration
>>> feature in Windows XP
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307852/en-us
>>> __________________________________________________ _________________________________________
>>>
>>> ***STARTUP REPAIR IN WINDOWS VISTA***
>>>
>>> 1) You run the startup repair tool this way:
>>>
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/925810/en-us
>>>
>>> How To Run Startup Repair In Vista Ultimate (Multiple Screenshots)
>>> http://www.windowsvista.windowsreins...rtup/index.htm
>>>
>>> Note The computer must be configured to start from a CD or from a DVD.
>>> For
>>> information about how to configure the computer to start from a CD or
>>> from a
>>> DVD, see the information that came with the computer.
>>>
>>> 2) Restart the computer. To do this, click Start, click the arrow next
>>> to
>>> the Lock button, and then click Restart.
>>>
>>> This usually means that you enter bios setup by whatever key or keys
>>> (sometimes there is more than one key that will do it for your model--go
>>> to
>>> pc manufacturer site) and configure CD to be first in the boot order.
>>>
>>> See for ref:
>>> Access/Enter Motherboard BIOS
>>> http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/bios_manufacturer.htm
>>>
>>> Note If you cannot restart the computer by using this method, use the
>>> power
>>> button to turn off the computer. Then, turn the computer back on.
>>>
>>> 3) Set your language preference, and then click Next.
>>>
>>> Note In most cases, the startup repair process starts automatically, and
>>> you
>>> do not have the option to select it in the System Recovery Options menu.
>>>
>>> 4) Click Repair your computer.
>>>
>>> 5) In the System Recovery Options dialog box, click the operating
>>> system
>>> that you want to repair, and then click Next.
>>>
>>> 6) In the System Recovery Options menu, click Startup Repair to start
>>> the
>>> repair process.
>>>
>>> 7) When the repair process is complete, click Finish.
>>>
>>> Additional References for Startup Repair With Screenshots:
>>>
>>> How to Use Startup Repair:
>>>
>>> ***Accessing Windows RE (Repair Environment):***
>>>
>>> 1) Insert Media into PC (the DVD you burned)
>>>
>>> 2) ***You will see on the Vista logo setup screen after lang. options in
>>> the
>>> lower left corner, a link called "System Recovery Options."***
>>>
>>> Screenshot: System Recovery Options (Lower Left Link)
>>> http://blogs.itecn.net/photos/liuhui...4/500x375.aspx
>>>
>>> Screenshot: (Click first option "Startup Repair"
>>> http://www.leedesmond.com/images/img...SysRecOpt2.bmp
>>>
>>> How To Run Startup Repair In Vista Ultimate (Multiple Screenshots)
>>> http://www.windowsvista.windowsreins...rtup/index.htm
>>>
>>> 3) Select your OS for repair.
>>>
>>> 4) Its been my experience that you can see some causes of the crash from
>>> theWin RE feature:
>>>
>>> You'll have a choice there of using:
>>>
>>> 1) Startup Repair
>>> 2) System Restore
>>> 3) Complete PC Restore
>>>
>>> Good luck,
>>>
>>> CH
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Bill Hobson" <Ihatespamb-hobson@tamu.edu> wrote in message
>>> news:BBB4042F-2A71-4D2D-990F-C8EBE9984684@microsoft.com...
>>>> Twice Vista has BSOD, and no KB messages to be found for the code
>>>> (today's BSOD):
>>>> Problem signature:
>>>> Problem Event Name: BlueScreen
>>>> OS Version: 6.0.6000.2.0.0.256.1
>>>> Locale ID: 1033
>>>>
>>>> Additional information about the problem:
>>>> BCCode: 116
>>>> BCP1: 84D8B410
>>>> BCP2: 894FB98A
>>>> BCP3: 00000000
>>>> BCP4: 00000002
>>>> OS Version: 6_0_6000
>>>> Service Pack: 0_0
>>>> Product: 256_1
>>>> ====================================
>>>> And for the previous BSOD:
>>>> BugCheckCode 00000116
>>>> BugCheckParameter1 847ac690
>>>> BugCheckParameter2 890fb98a
>>>> BugCheckParameter3 00000000
>>>> BugCheckParameter4 00000002
>>>>
>>>> I do have the full Minidump files decoded and saved, if needed. Vista
>>>> never returned and STOP message - I don't see this as an improvement -
>>>> had it done so, I would have a better idea of what's going on.
>>>

>>

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