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Old 10-09-2009, 04:40 AM
Tae Song
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Re: replacing Vista with XP/w2k and possible problems with drivers


"Tae Song" <tae_song********.com> wrote in message
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> "Gordon" <gordonbparker******.com> wrote in message
> news:#qamIKDSKHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=green]
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>> "Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message
>> news:eHtOf$CSKHA.1236@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> Gordon wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:eYXOOqCSKHA.220@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>> The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly Known as Nina DiBoy'
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>>>>>>> "aa" <a@microsoft.ru> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:u0YULZo%23JHA.200@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> Nobody forced you to buy that HP
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Earle, if you read me carefully you will see that I do not complain
>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>> HP.
>>>>>>>> My complaint is about MS who forced HP to sell computers with VISTA
>>>>>>>> only.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [url]www.ubuntu.com[/url]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wow, now I've seen everything, Mike Hall suggesting Ubuntu. :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And not the best time to do it since most Linux has just had it's
>>>>> networking ability (With Windows via Samba) destroyed by the Samba
>>>>> developers, or at least that is what it looks like from here...
>>>>>
>>>>> Supposedly a security issue, but all my Windows (Inc Vista) can see
>>>>> and manipulate the shares on the Linux machines with no trouble, the
>>>>> Linux machines however can't see anything except the workgroup, so the
>>>>> Windows machines are made more secure but the linux machines remain
>>>>> blissfully ignorant of the fact that they are being observed :)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ubuntu 9.04 will see XP shares but there seems to be a problem with
>>>> Windows 7......
>>>
>>>
>>> If you upgraded to 9.04 did you take the option to keep your Samba
>>> config or did you allow it to be changed? If you did, or you just
>>> installed 9.04 as a new install then I am surprised the Samba (SMB:)
>>> shares can be seen... did you do anything to make that possible and if
>>> so what?[/color]
>>
>> A fresh install of 9.04 Remix. Fully updated and no configuration
>> changes made to Samba. The XP shares can be seen and accessed as normal,
>> after giving the password....
>> Windows 7 machine is seen on the network, but can't be accessed - I just
>> get an endless loop of the log-in dialog box...[/color]
>
>
> The problem is Microsoft introduced changes with SMB 2.0 in Vista. It
> allows machines using only SMB 1.0 to see Vista but not access it.
>
> XP seems to support SMB 2.0 or has changes necessary to access shares on
> Vista over SMB 1.0 (needs further investigating).
>
>
> To access Vista shares from machines with only SMB 1.0 (or compatibility),
> disable SMB 2.0.
>
> From an elevated command prompt
>
> sc config lanmanworkstation depend= bowser/mrxsmb10/nsi
> sc config mrxsmb20 start= disabled
>
>
> To reenable SMB 2.0
>
> sc config lanmanworkstation depend= bowser/mrxsmb10/mrxsmb20/nsi
> sc config mrxsmb20 start= auto
>
>
> Source:
> [url]http://www.petri.co.il/how-to-disable-smb-2-on-windows-vista-or-server-2008.htm[/url]
>
>
> I tested this with a Windows 98SE machine, which had problems connecting
> to Vista mahcines but no problems accessing XP machines. After disabling
> SMB 2.0 I can access shares on the Windows 98SE as easily as any other
> Vista or XP machines.
>
> I still have yet to test Linux, though.
>
> Not yet sure what the downside of disabling SMB 2.0 is. There's no
> performance changes. Only other thing is security "enhancements" in SMB
> 2.0, but it may be just induced from the incompatibility with SMB 1.0.
>
>
> Reference on Samba (smb.conf) configuration and explanation of SMB
> security modes:
> [url]http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-4-Manual/ref-guide/s1-samba-security-modes.html[/url][/color]

Minor correction. Window 98SE still can't access Vista shares. I was
looking at another machine with a similar name.

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