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Old 10-08-2009, 05:40 PM
Tae Song
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Re: replacing Vista with XP/w2k and possible problems with drivers


"Gordon" <gordonbparker******.com> wrote in message
news:#qamIKDSKHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>
> "Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message
> news:eHtOf$CSKHA.1236@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> Gordon wrote:[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> "Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message
>>> news:eYXOOqCSKHA.220@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly Known as Nina DiBoy'
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>>>>>> "aa" <a@microsoft.ru> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:u0YULZo%23JHA.200@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> Nobody forced you to buy that HP
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Earle, if you read me carefully you will see that I do not complain
>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>> HP.
>>>>>>> My complaint is about MS who forced HP to sell computers with VISTA
>>>>>>> only.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [url]www.ubuntu.com[/url]
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Wow, now I've seen everything, Mike Hall suggesting Ubuntu. :)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And not the best time to do it since most Linux has just had it's
>>>> networking ability (With Windows via Samba) destroyed by the Samba
>>>> developers, or at least that is what it looks like from here...
>>>>
>>>> Supposedly a security issue, but all my Windows (Inc Vista) can see and
>>>> manipulate the shares on the Linux machines with no trouble, the Linux
>>>> machines however can't see anything except the workgroup, so the
>>>> Windows machines are made more secure but the linux machines remain
>>>> blissfully ignorant of the fact that they are being observed :)
>>>>
>>>
>>> Ubuntu 9.04 will see XP shares but there seems to be a problem with
>>> Windows 7......[/color]
>>
>>
>> If you upgraded to 9.04 did you take the option to keep your Samba config
>> or did you allow it to be changed? If you did, or you just installed 9.04
>> as a new install then I am surprised the Samba (SMB:) shares can be
>> seen... did you do anything to make that possible and if so what?[/color]
>
> A fresh install of 9.04 Remix. Fully updated and no configuration changes
> made to Samba. The XP shares can be seen and accessed as normal, after
> giving the password....
> Windows 7 machine is seen on the network, but can't be accessed - I just
> get an endless loop of the log-in dialog box...[/color]


The problem is Microsoft introduced changes with SMB 2.0 in Vista. It
allows machines using only SMB 1.0 to see Vista but not access it.

XP seems to support SMB 2.0 or has changes necessary to access shares on
Vista over SMB 1.0 (needs further investigating).


To access Vista shares from machines with only SMB 1.0 (or compatibility),
disable SMB 2.0.

From an elevated command prompt

sc config lanmanworkstation depend= bowser/mrxsmb10/nsi
sc config mrxsmb20 start= disabled


To reenable SMB 2.0

sc config lanmanworkstation depend= bowser/mrxsmb10/mrxsmb20/nsi
sc config mrxsmb20 start= auto


Source:
[url]http://www.petri.co.il/how-to-disable-smb-2-on-windows-vista-or-server-2008.htm[/url]


I tested this with a Windows 98SE machine, which had problems connecting to
Vista mahcines but no problems accessing XP machines. After disabling SMB
2.0 I can access shares on the Windows 98SE as easily as any other Vista or
XP machines.

I still have yet to test Linux, though.

Not yet sure what the downside of disabling SMB 2.0 is. There's no
performance changes. Only other thing is security "enhancements" in SMB
2.0, but it may be just induced from the incompatibility with SMB 1.0.


Reference on Samba (smb.conf) configuration and explanation of SMB security
modes:
[url]http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-4-Manual/ref-guide/s1-samba-security-modes.html[/url]

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