We are past the point of diminishing returns. Removing SP3 is not an option as there are too many
hot fixes after it and IE7 is not removable now. BTW, my current Windows XP Pro installation CD has
SP3 slip streamed into it so I am not sure I can remove IE7 even with the recover console.
It takes a couple of man weeks to completely rebuild this system. Since I will have Windows 7 by
the end of July I might as well wait and put the effort into a Windows 7 build at which point I will
be stuck with IE8. I thought there might be a known quick fix to my current problem.
Thanks anyway.
BTW, I am behind a hardware firewall -- the software one is just to prevent anything from calling
home unless I want it to. If you are really concerned about running with your firewall done during
installations just disable your network connection before you bring the firewall down.
"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP******.com> wrote:
>> ...why is it necessary to enable the Windows Firewall?
>
>Because you should not be connected to the internet without a firewall: I
>recommend disabling any third-party firewall and then enabling the Windows
>Firewall prior to installing or uninstalling an IE upgrade or Windows
>Service Pack.
>
>> I think you missed a couple of thinks in my post...
>
>Nope, didn't miss anything. If you don't have such a Restore Point
>available, I'd say you have two (2) options now:
>
>1. Uninstall IE7 then do a Repair Install; cf.
>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/917964
>
>NB: See http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/200...and-xpsp3.aspx. You
>may have to uninstall SP3 before you'll be able to uninstall IE7.
>
>2. Backup your personal data, then do a format & clean install of Windows;
>cf. http://michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html#steps
>
>After the clean install, you'll have the equivalent of a "new computer" so
>take care of everything on the following page before otherwise connecting
>the machine to the internet or a network and before using a USB key that
>isn't brand-new or hasn't been freshly formatted:
>
>5 steps to help protect your new computer before you go online
>http://www.microsoft.com/protect/com...nced/xppc.mspx
>
>HOW TO get a computer running WinXP Gold (no Service Packs) fully patched
>(after a clean install)
>http://groups.google.com/group/micro...5afa8ed33e121c
>
>HOW TO get a computer running WinXP SP1(a) or SP2 fully patched (after a
>clean install)
>http://groups.google.com/group/micro...66ae41add7dd2b
>
>Reference:
>
>No-charge support for Internet Explorer 8 installation, set-up and usage
>(only) is available via the phone based on your locale through 31 December
>2009. Customers must be running Windows XP or Windows Vista in a non-domain
>environment.
>=> US & CA Residents: 1-866-234-6020
>=> Other locales: https://support.microsoft.com/oas/de...px?&prid=13043
>==
>~PA Bear [Agent]
>
>Stewart Berman wrote:
>>> All components of ZAISS (i.e., anti-virus, anti-spyware, and firewall)
>>> should have been disabled and the Windows Firewall enabled prior to
>>> installing and uninstalling IE8, Stewart.
>>
>> I can understand disabling anti-vrus, etc. (which did not appear to
>> interfere with either installing or uninstalling IE8 -- at least no
>> problems were reported.) but why is it necessary to enable the Windows
>> Firewall?
>>
>>> If IE8 is uninstalled, a Restore Point predating the install of IE8 might
>>> resolve your issues.
>>
>> I think you missed a couple of thinks in my post:
>>
>>>> I found a script that is supposed to list all system restore points and
>>>> it
>>>> only listed the ones for July 2 and 3. It appears something wiped out
>>>> all
>>>> of my system restore points before the July 2 one was created. (I also
>>>> tried accessing them from System Restore and it also only listed the two
>>>> repair points.)
>>
>>>> According to MS Updates the last update applied to the machine was The
>>>> 2007
>>>> Microsoft Office Suite Service Pack 2 (SP2) on June 14, 2009. It says
>>>> IE8
>>>> was installed on June 14, 2009 -- before Office 2007 SP2 was applied.
>>>> (Office 2007 SP2 is not removable so I doubt I could go back before IE8
>>>> was
>>>> installed as that would require rolling back the Office 2007 SP2 patch.
>>>> I
>>>> removed IE8 on June 20, 2009.
>>
>> There are no restore points before the IE8 installation.
>>
>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP******.com> wrote:
>>> All components of ZAISS (i.e., anti-virus, anti-spyware, and firewall)
>>> should have been disabled and the Windows Firewall enabled prior to
>>> installing and uninstalling IE8, Stewart.
>>>
>>> If IE8 is uninstalled, a Restore Point predating the install of IE8 might
>>> resolve your issues.
>>> ==
>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>>>
>>> Stewart Berman wrote:
>>>> Windows XP Pro SP3 with all priority patches -- with the IE8 high
>>>> priority
>>>> patch reverted.
>>>>
>>>> Using Zone Alarms Internet Security Suite 8.0.298.035 for both
>>>> anti-virus,
>>>> anti-spyware and firewall. They are always running.
>>>>
>>>> Please note all of these were installed and operational when IE7 was
>>>> originally working -- before I applied one high priority patch (IE8) too
>>>> many.
>>>>
>>>> AFAIK, no Norton or McAfee product has been installed since the last
>>>> rebuild of this machine.
>>>>
>>>> I found a script that is supposed to list all system restore points and
>>>> it
>>>> only listed the ones for July 2 and 3. It appears something wiped out
>>>> all
>>>> of my system restore points before the July 2 one was created. (I also
>>>> tried accessing them from System Restore and it also only listed the two
>>>> repair points.)
>>>>
>>>> According to MS Updates the last update applied to the machine was The
>>>> 2007
>>>> Microsoft Office Suite Service Pack 2 (SP2) on June 14, 2009. It says
>>>> IE8
>>>> was installed on June 14, 2009 -- before Office 2007 SP2 was applied.
>>>> (Office 2007 SP2 is not removable so I doubt I could go back before IE8
>>>> was
>>>> installed as that would require rolling back the Office 2007 SP2 patch.
>>>> I
>>>> removed IE8 on June 20, 2009.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP******.com> wrote:
>>>>> Please state your full Windows version (e.g., WinXP SP3; Vista x64 SP2)
>>>>> when posting to this newsgroup.
>>>>>
>>>>> What anti-virus application or security suite is installed and is your
>>>>> subscription current? What anti-spyware applications (other than
>>>>> Defender)? What third-party firewall (if any)? Were any of these
>>>>> applications running in the background when you installed and/or
>>>>> uninstalled IE8?
>>>>>
>>>>> Has a Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on this machine
>>>>> (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you bought it)?
>>>>>
>>>>> Just asking for now!! Do NOT use such a Restore Point yet!! => Do you
>>>>> have
>>>>> an available Restore Point which predates the install of IE8?
><paste>
>> I "upgraded" to IE8 as part of installing recommended updates and
>> discovered that it does not support Personalized Favorites. As my
>> favorites menu is rather large and complex this pushed me to revert to IE7
>> which I did on June 20, 2009, and made sure the Enable personalized
>> favorites menu option was checked. Unfortunately, IE did not revert to
>> actually personalizing the favorites menu.
>>
>> The knowledge base article: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/257128
>> is titled: Enable Personalized Favorites Menu Feature Does Not Take Effect
>> Immediately
>> However it states:
>> "If infrequently-used menu commands or shortcuts are still not demoted
>> after you restart Internet Explorer, you may need to wait for as much as a
>> week or more for the item to be demoted. "
>>
>> It is now two weeks and I still do not have a personalized favorites menu.
>>
>> Any suggestions on how to fix this would be appreciated.