One more thing, if you are fighting against nationalities, you have no
allies and you are fighting a losing war.

If you are fighting against crime and criminals, you have the whole world to
be your allies.

I thought the choice is simple and why do you want to follow a proven failed
example?

"xfile" <coucou@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:OYRaaSn9JHA.2120@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> I have been lazy lately so I have not seriously read any security reports.
>
> But based on my memory, a few years ago several reports indicated that a
> large number of hackers and spams were originated from some of those
> mentioned areas. However, later reports also found out that those were
> incorrect since many of those systems were comprised and were used as a
> bridge and the real hackers might not have originated from those areas. I
> guess you should know what is bridging.
>
> So, I would appreciate if any of you can provide substantial data, such as
> comparing spams and hackers originated from different areas/countries
> before making these claims. Or it's another of your "feeling" which
> happens to be his too?
>
> Also, I am not trying to defend for China and won't deny it is one of the
> largest "sources" of counterfeited software (and other products) in the
> world, but who are buyers? Buyers are scattered around the world
> including the US.
>
> It's back to the same old question: Who should be blamed for buying or
> selling illegal products including drugs? You would say that it's the
> seller and I would say - BOTH.
>
> We need to fight against crimes and criminals not against nationalities,
> and the later is what you and the OP proposed and I am one of those for
> the first.
>
> That is the difference between us and that is what I call a prejudice.
>
>
> "+Bob+" <nomailplease@example.com> wrote in message
> news:2gm945trbb28p0k2c4ibit7doed5iimnii@4ax.com...[color=green]
>> On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 22:32:34 -0700, "xfile" <coucou@nospam.com> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>I acknowledge certain level of hacking and stealing and pirating in each
>>>and
>>>every country, and of course, unless someone can provide a solid evidence
>>>to
>>>prove EVERY person in a stated country is a criminal, or will it be a
>>>prejudice for using any generalized statement?
>>>
>>>Can you prove anyone in the states has not cracked their software and
>>>vice
>>>versa?
>>>
>>>So you do support generalization in a way to stimulate hatred among
>>>different countries?[/color]
>>
>> I know what you are saying, but I didn't get the feeling he was
>> blaming all Russians, or all Chinese, or all Iranians, as hackers. I
>> did get the feeling that he was saying hacking is very prevalent in
>> those countries. I know that is definitely true in Russia and China.
>> Not everyone is a hacker, but they certainly have a very high number
>> of them. China is also a major (and I mean major) source of
>> counterfeited software. So, he's accurate on that point.
>>
>> I've never studied Iran and the software situation there.[/color]
>[/color]