Hello Colin,
That option is limited to 64-bit. It is not available for 32-bit Windows
Vista
Thanks,
Darrell Gorter[MSFT]

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|>From: "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com>
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|>That's the way I am reading it based on the Upgrade Matrix, the notes
that
|>follow, and Darrel's much more limited experiment. He answered a
specific
|>question relating to a specific scenario, but his result at least
indicates
|>that there are cases where Setup does not require running from the
desktop
|>even when an upgrade edition pk is used.
|>
|>"Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
|>news:ur0Q7ESNHHA.1276@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
|>> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message
|>> news:D3B1BD07-AECC-4E23-8486-FE5E98ED803B@microsoft.com...
|>>> New info on "clean" installations and the implications for migrating
from
|>>> x86 to x64 with an upgrade edition.
|>>>
|>>> Darrel Gorter replied in one of the ng's yesterday that he had
performed
|>>> an experiment for us with an upgrade edition product key. This is a
|>>> first from a Microsoft person. Thank you very much, Darrel.
|>>>
|>>> Based on Darrel's experiment with XP x86 and XP x64, it IS possible to
|>>> run Setup from a dvd boot in some scenarios. His experiment was to
use
|>>> an upgrade product key with one of the yellow dot scenarios. What he
|>>> found out was that in those cases entering the UE pk does NOT trigger
the
|>>> message to restart the computer and run Setup from the legacy desktop.
|>>> Setup continued and completed the installation.
|>>>
|>>> Darrel's findings showed that a classic clean install may not be
possible
|>>> when upgrading from XP x86 to Vista x86, but should be when migrating
|>>> from Win2k or XP Pro x64 to Vista. Based on Darrel's experiment with
XP
|>>> x86 and XP x64, it IS possible to run Setup from a dvd boot in some
|>>> scenarios. His experiment was to use an upgrade product key with XP
x86
|>>> to Vista x86 (upgrade scenario) and with XP x64 to Vista x64
(migration
|>>> scenario). What he found out was that XP x86 to Vista x86 required
|>>> restarting and running from the desktop, but XP x64 to Vista did not.
In
|>>> that case entering the UE pk did NOT trigger the message to restart
the
|>>> computer and run Setup from the legacy desktop. Setup continued and
|>>> completed the installation from a dvd boot even though he had entered
an
|>>> upgrade edition product key.
|>>>
|>>> Look at the Upgrade Matrix on Get Ready. The green dots are the
|>>> upgrades, meaning that you will have to run Setup from an XP desktop.
|>>> When you do so the Advanced Options (including format) are not be
|>>> available. The AOs are only available in Setup when you can start
Setup
|>>> following a dvd boot. Therefore you can only do a classic clean
|>>> installation in a scenario that permits running Setup following a dvd
|>>> boot (and that should be all the yellow dots in the Matrix).
|>>>
|>>> The yellow dots in the Matrix are what I prefer to call migrations.
|>>> Migrations are where you save all your files and settings, install
|>>> Windows, reinstall your apps, and then restore your files and settings.
|>>>
|>>> Darrel said that he believes that upon entry of an UE pk, Setup runs a
|>>> compliance check to see if any qualifying Windows installations exist
on
|>>> the system that qualify for upgrade pricing and based on that does one
of
|>>> the following:
|>>>
|>>> (1) If there is an XP edition that can be upgraded to an equivalent or
|>>> higher edition of Vista then you get the message to restart and run
Setup
|>>> from the XP desktop. The upgrade option will be enabled when you do
so.
|>>>
|>>> (2) If there is a Win2k, XP Pro x64, or version of XP that would lose
|>>> functionality (XP Pro to Vista Home Premium, for example), then Setup
|>>> continues without requiring running from a desktop. What you get with
|>>> (2) is a migration. The upgrade option would have been disabled if
you
|>>> had run Setup from the desktop.
|>>>
|>>> (3) If none is found you should have purchased a full edition.
|>>>
|>>> If (2) holds true for all the yellow dots, it would mean that you can
do
|>>> a classic clean installation of Vista as long as running from the
desktop
|>>> is not required because (a) the legacy OS is not running (and
therefore
|>>> the system drive can be formatted) and (b) the Advanced Options are
|>>> available when booting with the dvd.
|>>>
|>>> Also, if (2) holds true for all the yellow dots, it would mean that a
|>>> Win2k or XP x86 user could migrate from x86 to x64 with an UE pk by
|>>> booting with the x64 dvd instead of the x86 dvd. That will be very
|>>> welcome news indeed. It also explains how the process works for XP Pro
|>>> x64 users when using an UE pk to migrate to Vista x64.
|>>>
|>>> It appears that Darrel's and Carey's statements a few weeks ago that
|>>> booting with a dvd and entering a UE pk required restarting the
machine
|>>> and running Setup from the legacy desktop were ONLY applicable when
|>>> upgrading XP x86 to Vista x86 and only then if a loss of functionality
|>>> would not be involved.
|>>>
|>>> Until Darrel's reply yesterday I had not seen a single first hand
report
|>>> of any attempt to use an UE pk in one of the yellow dot scenarios.
|>>> Darrel was very gracious to take the time to do it for us because I
don't
|>>> think it was in his job description.
|>>>
|>>>
|>>
|>>
|>> Thanks for that Colin. Let me see if I've got it right. Please correct
me
|>> if wrong.
|>>
|>> 1) To use a Vista upgrade you have to have a qualifying OS installed on
|>> the computer.
|>>
|>> 2) If it is possible to upgrade the qualifying OS installation that is
the
|>> only option available.
|>>
|>> 3) If it is not possible to upgrade the qualifying OS installation then
|>> you can boot from the Vista media and perform a clean install wiping
out
|>> the qualifying OS.
|>>
|>> This makes sense. I'm not complaining about the way previous Windows
|>> upgrades worked but I often wondered why anyone bought full retail
|>> versions when it was so easy to fool the upgrade. I would like to see a
|>> way to work around #2 and still have a way to ensure the upgrade is
|>> legitimate as I prefer a clean install but I can live with this
scenario.
|>> I was afraid from what we had heard previously that you wouldn't be
able
|>> to use upgrade keys with OS' that couldn't be upgraded and a clean
install
|>> was needed.
|>>
|>> --
|>> Kerry Brown
|>> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
|>> [url]http://www.vistahelp.ca[/url]
|>>
|>>
|>
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