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Old 10-17-2008, 07:41 AM
MowGreen [MVP]
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Re: "install important updates" at Windows XP SP3 shutdown - huh?

>> I downloaded IE7-WindowsXP-KB956390-x86-ENU.exe directly from MS.
>> Installed that and restarted computer and no problems.
>>
>> BUT... it doesn't show up in my update history when I run Windows
>> Update,


Updates installed *manually* will only show in the System Event log and
be listed in ARP. [Add/Remove Programs]

I can't access the log you posted at megaupload.com.
Windows Update needs to update the Windows Update Agent from time to
time. Perhaps that's what's occurring:
http://blogs.technet.com/mu/archive/...ws-update.aspx

The WU.log shows which V. of the Windows Update Agent that is installed:

2008-10-15 11:50:22:834 3712 a5c Misc =========== Logging initialized
(build: 7.2.6001.784, tz: -0700) ===========

If the build: is a lower Version than what is required, it *should*
attempt to update it. This updating can fail if security software does
not allow it. Perhaps it's attempting to install on Shutdown as said sec
software is inhibiting it's installation whilst it's still running ?


2008-10-14 11:52:22:794 3116 c24 Setup *********** Setup: Checking
whether self-update is required ***********
2008-10-14 11:52:22:794 3116 c24 Setup * Inf file:
D:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\WebSetup\wsus3setu p.inf
2008-10-14 11:52:22:884 3116 c24 Setup Update NOT required for
D:\WINDOWS\system32\cdm.dll: target version = 7.2.6001.784, required
version = 7.2.6001.784
2008-10-14 11:52:22:884 3116 c24 Setup Update NOT required for
D:\WINDOWS\system32\wuapi.dll: target version = 7.2.6001.784, required
version = 7.2.6001.784
2008-10-14 11:52:22:894 3116 c24 Setup Update NOT required for
D:\WINDOWS\system32\wuapi.dll.mui: target version = 7.2.6001.784,
required version = 7.2.6001.784
2008-10-14 11:52:22:904 3116 c24 Setup Update NOT required for
D:\WINDOWS\system32\wuauclt.exe: target version = 7.2.6001.784, required
version = 7.2.6001.784
2008-10-14 11:52:22:904 3116 c24 Setup Update NOT required for
D:\WINDOWS\system32\wuaucpl.cpl: target version = 7.2.6001.784, required
version = 7.2.6001.784
2008-10-14 11:52:22:914 3116 c24 Setup Update NOT required for
D:\WINDOWS\system32\wuaucpl.cpl.mui: target version = 7.2.6001.784,
required version = 7.2.6001.784
2008-10-14 11:52:22:914 3116 c24 Setup Update NOT required for
D:\WINDOWS\system32\wuaueng.dll: target version = 7.2.6001.784, required
version = 7.2.6001.784
2008-10-14 11:52:22:924 3116 c24 Setup Update NOT required for
D:\WINDOWS\system32\wuaueng.dll.mui: target version = 7.2.6001.784,
required version = 7.2.6001.784
2008-10-14 11:52:22:924 3116 c24 Setup Update NOT required for
D:\WINDOWS\system32\wucltui.dll: target version = 7.2.6001.784, required
version = 7.2.6001.784
2008-10-14 11:52:22:934 3116 c24 Setup Update NOT required for
D:\WINDOWS\system32\wucltui.dll.mui: target version = 7.2.6001.784,
required version = 7.2.6001.784
2008-10-14 11:52:22:944 3116 c24 Setup Update NOT required for
D:\WINDOWS\system32\wups.dll: target version = 7.2.6001.784, required
version = 7.2.6001.784
2008-10-14 11:52:22:954 3116 c24 Setup Update NOT required for
D:\WINDOWS\system32\wups2.dll: target version = 7.2.6001.784, required
version = 7.2.6001.784

If you check Automatic Updates in the Control Panel, you'll see this:

(Turning on Automatic Updates may automatically update Windows Update
software first, before any other updates.)

If you don't Trust Windows Update to update the WUA, the only recourse
you have is to turn off Automatic Updates.


MowGreen [MVP 2003-2009]
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foobar5@home.com wrote:

> On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 05:20:42 -0400, foobar5@home.com wrote:
>
>
>>On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 16:31:57 +1300, "Harry Johnston [MVP]"
>><harry@scms.waikato.ac.nz> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>foobar5@home.com wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>When I went to shut my computer down tonight, instead of the normal
>>>>standby, turn off, restart popup, I had that, but there was a Windows
>>>>security shield superimposed on the turn off icon, and a message at
>>>>the bottom of the popup saying "Click Turn Off to install important
>>>>updates and turn off your computer. Click here to turn off without
>>>>installing updates."
>>>
>>>Start by looking in WindowsUpdate.log (usually found in c:\windows). If you
>>>have trouble interpreting it, post the last hundred lines or so here.
>>>
>>> Harry.
>>>

>>
>>There are around 1300 pieces of activity in my
>>c:\windows\windowsupdate.log for 2008-10-14. There are already 51
>>activities for 2008-10-15 and the day is young!
>>
>>http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1ME2YPEQ has the file as it currently
>>exists.
>>
>>FWIW, my c:\windows directory has 16 files from 2008-09-09 (September
>>patch Tuesday), one from 2008-09-23, and the following from
>>2008-10-14:
>>
>>* KB956390-IE7.log
>>* setupapi.log
>>* SchedLgU.Txt
>>* bootstat.dat
>>* wiaservc.log
>>* wiadebug.log
>>* 0.log (NOTE: zero-length file)
>>
>>And there's the WindowsUpldate.log, which was time stamped 04:51 this
>>morning, from when I got on. As I said, 51 entries in it.
>>
>>A cursory scan of the logs shows nothing too weird. I'm guessing that
>>KB956390 related to IE7 is the only thing it's trying to install.
>>
>>Still feel funny about how Windows is just pushing an update or
>>updates on me without telling me what they are.

>
>
> Okay, more weirdness.
>
> I downloaded IE7-WindowsXP-KB956390-x86-ENU.exe directly from MS.
> Installed that and restarted computer and no problems.
>
> BUT... it doesn't show up in my update history when I run Windows
> Update, and I'm still getting the "Click Turn Off to install important
> updates and turn off your computer. Click here to turn off without
> installing updates." message when I try to shut down or restart.
>
> Perhaps these lines from my WindowsUpdate.log might be of interest:
>
> 2008-10-15 06:00:17:359 988 be4 Agent * Added
> update {3DE030BB-2666-44F6-9B15-E02FE518833F}.100 to search result
> 2008-10-15 06:00:17:359 988 be4 Agent * Added
> update {424B1C8F-742A-4614-8012-1BB25B527706}.100 to search result
> 2008-10-15 06:00:17:359 988 be4 Agent * Added
> update {650F9FB5-032E-41BB-B31B-4210AC074F8B}.102 to search result
> 2008-10-15 06:00:17:359 988 be4 Agent * Added
> update {25EE37D4-1EB2-4546-843F-AD0AC80BC14E}.104 to search result
> 2008-10-15 06:00:17:359 988 be4 Agent * Added
> update {33A7EDF1-2350-4102-8082-9540EFF65704}.102 to search result
> 2008-10-15 06:00:17:359 988 be4 Agent * Added
> update {8FD536A6-5577-432D-8031-3369530913DC}.102 to search result
> 2008-10-15 06:00:17:359 988 be4 Agent * Added
> update {336530D3-9AE4-42DF-9606-4FB35D46CEFC}.102 to search result
> 2008-10-15 06:00:17:359 988 be4 Agent * Found 7
> updates and 42 categories in search; evaluated appl. rules of 278 out
> of 661 deployed entities
>
> Still not seeing yellow Windows Update shield in my system tray.

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Old 10-17-2008, 07:41 AM