On Jun 1, 11:33*am, "Canuck57" <dave-no_s...@unixhome.net> wrote:
> "Unknown" <unkn...@unknown.kom> wrote in message
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> > Your argument is totally ridiculous. The primary reason for Microsoft's
> > popularity is simply because it is so flexible.
> > What do you want your computer to do? *Microsoft's OS does it. Who uses
> > Microsoft's OS? *Everyone. Corporations and businesses alike.
> > Can't you get that through your head?
>
> You must be a newbie to the business. *This is just history repeating
> itself.
>
> Times have changed before. *Microsoft, unless it changes it's ways will be
> the next Novell. *BTW, Novell does sell Linux SUSE and would not doubt
> NetWare, but is far behind RHT. *In the desktop, I wouldn't doubt Ubuntuhas
> eclipsed SUSE.
>
> Lets list some tech companies that have seen better days, or specifically
> major chunck of their business activitied evaporated in market share
> ownership, many which were heavy into workstations:
>
> Digital
> Compaq
> Sperry/UNIVAC
> Novell
> NorTel
> Bell Labs
> BaaN
> IBM (PC, mainframes and workstations, they evolved to services)
> Amdahl
> Wyse
> Tandy/Radio Shack
> Apple (as in II and IIe but recovering)
> Commodore (PET, C64)
> Data General
> Motorola (MC6802 or MC6809 anyone?)
> Zilog
> Zerox/PARC
> SCO (Yep)
> (more that I have missed for sure)
>
> Even Linux has road kill. *Survival of the fitest.
>
> Now I am not saying Microsoft is going out of business. *I am saying it's
> price elasticity is shot to hell, innovation has peeked, and market share in
> the total market is shrinking. *Linux chewing away at the bottom, and Apple
> chewing away at the top represents a major problem to future business growth
> of Microsoft. *Market maturization, commoditization and saturation too.
>
> With Vista, there is a market brand damage and the Microsoft can do no wrong
> attitude is under more pressure than ever before. *This is likley going to
> accelerate.
>
> I will predict Q3 and more so Q4 financial reports this year is not going to
> be nice for MSFT as it has to spin a new marketing model to grow. *Whichis
> what the purchase of Yahoo was all about. *Bill and Steve know their market
> predicament and MSFT futures or they would have made such an offer. *MSNBC
> is another. *MSFT is a 2 trick pony, MS-Windows and MS-Office.

- Both which can now be economically replaced with FLOSS.

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> > "Canuck57" <dave-no_s...@unixhome.net> wrote in message
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> >> "Billy Smith" <chungkingchungk...******.com> wrote in message
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> >>> "Dave" <nos...@biteme.com> wrote in message
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> >>>> Billy Smith wrote:
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> >>>> How do you explain this?
>
> >>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Top500_OS.png
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> >>> What it says to me is that your corporate and university level people
> >>> working with supercomputers *are going to Linux versus Unix or in the
> >>> case of Microsoft they aren't going to use it. Thats doesn't mean that
> >>> Microsoft makes a bad product for the general consumer market. Linux
> >>> does have its use and one of its uses is that it tends to be rather fast
> >>> for an operating system. However, if you consider speed anything you
> >>> should use Linux. Yet when you use a wide variety of PC appplications,
> >>> you will find that they aren't usable in Linux format. You can partition
> >>> your drive to use both Microsoft based stuff and Linux or you can stick
> >>> with what you know.
> >>> For most people, they are not going to use Linux because A: There is no
> >>> need for using it and B: They don't have the capability to babysit Linux
> >>> based systems. The average computer science grad or expert in the
> >>> computer field very well might get some usage out of it. For most
> >>> people, they are content in using Microsoft Office or whatever works for
> >>> plug and play applications.
>
> >>> Theyr'e not going to waste their time formatting their hard drive to run
> >>> a program and system that while being faster doesn't have the applicable
> >>> uses that a Microsoft system has. The Microsoft systems have that
> >>> advantage because you can put in any XP or Vista or 98 based software of
> >>> which I have at least one in each operating system. You can put in any
> >>> program that is made for that system and use it. That cannot be said for
> >>> converting your system to Linux no matter how much faster it may be. Its
> >>> not really worth the time for most people
>
> >>> If you want to put Linux and make it customizable to your system that
> >>> works for *those applications then go for it.. For the general computer
> >>> user that exists in the general public, then most people go for
> >>> Microsoft. They're not going to use Linux and I would venture than
> >>> Microsoft is much more recognizable than what Linux has been or probably
> >>> will ever be.
>
> >>> Linux is still at the infancy state of the computer realm. Its not going
> >>> to catch on all that much for the hundreds of millions of computer
> >>> users.
>
> >>> Thats why Mac will never be a viable competitor to Microsoft. They're
> >>> still stuck in the proprietary and infant stage. Just like the Iphone.I
> >>> would have actually been interested in getting an Iphone but when I have
> >>> to use ATT for service, they can forget it. I used to have Cingular and
> >>> it was a joke for phone service but also their customer service section
> >>> was incompetent at best. I can actually pay my bill through Verizon and
> >>> know what I actually owe. Nice concept isnt it.
>
> >>> Macs will never become more than fancy overpriced boxes for graphics
> >>> users, game players, etc. You never see that many Macs ever used for
> >>> servers, internet commerce, etc. Thats why you can go to the Apple store
> >>> here in Louisville and find out that a Mac will cost you 1500 to 2000
> >>> dollars when a basic Vista/XP computer will net you half those amounts..
> >>> When Apple learns to market their computers and systems correctly and
> >>> produce something worth really having, then they will take off. Until
> >>> then, they don't have a prayer competition wise.
>
> >> If you mean is Linux finished growing up and fully mature? *Heck no, it
> >> has only begun. *I suspect it will be evolving well past my lifetime.
>
> >> Linux is vastly superior to Vista in most ways, you bet. *I place it just
> >> on the heals of XP right now but ahead of Vista. *I will grant, XP is
> >> quite mature, but stagnant. *Where as Linux is still, and will always
> >> perpetually evolve.
>
> >> The Linux maturity is going to be evolutionary and not the dump
> >> everything change now you see with Microsoft products. *Where as
> >> Microsoft has a grand-batch mentality. *The later can't get continuous
> >> improvement, can't evolve. *Take Vista, is now in maintenance mode. *Its
> >> active development has ceased! *Understand that. *They all moved onto
> >> Win 7 for the next disruption.
>
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