"General Schvantzkopf" <schvantzkopf******.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 20 May 2008 07:09:20 -0400, jim wrote:
>
>> "General Schvantzkopf" <schvantzkopf******.com> wrote in message
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>>> On Sat, 17 May 2008 13:55:27 -0400, jim wrote:
>>>
>>>> Does anyone know of a bootable Linux live CD that already has VMware
>>>> Player installed?
>>>>
>>>> ****ed if I can dredge one up in Google.....
>>>>
>>>> jim
>>>
>>> I doubt that one exists however it would be easy to do that with
>>> Fedora9. F9 has added a couple of features that make custom LiveCDs
>>> really easy. If you want a CD or DVD you can create a custom image that
>>> includes anything you want. If you use a USB FLASH drive it's even
>>> easier. You install the F9 LiveCD image using the overlay feature.
>>> Overlays make the USB LiveCD act like a normal Fedora system, i.e. you
>>> can install additional software, create user accounts, and modify the
>>> system just as you would if it was on a hard drive. You would install
>>> VMware just like you would on a regular Fedora box. I don't know if
>>> VMware 1.0.5 will run on a 2.6.25 kernel but the beta of VMware Server
>>> 2.0 does, I have VMware Server 2.0 running on a couple of F9 systems.
>>>
>>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Beats/Live
>>
>> But didn't RedHat abandon the desktop? I am not at all comfortable
>> using desktop software from a vendor that just gave up the fight for the
>> desktop.
>>
>> jim
>
> RedHat has never attempted to make money from the desktop, it makes it's
> money from the enterprise server market. They never abandoned the
> desktop, they've just chosen to not have a commercial desktop offering,
> instead they have a free desktop product i.e. Fedora. That said there is
> really no difference between a Linux server and a Linux desktop system.
> What makes a system a "desktop" system is the presence of a desktop
> environment like Gnome or KDE, and guess what, Gnome and KDE are an
> integral part of Redhat Enterprise Linux products. Fedora is the
> testbench for future versions of Redhat Enterprise Linux, that's how
> Redhat justifies supporting a free product. I like Fedora a lot better
> than Ubuntu but that's a personal preference. Fedora 9 and Ubuntu 8.04
> both use Gnome 2.22, Fedora 9 uses the 2.6.25 kernel while Ubuntu is
> using the older 2.6.24 kernel.
>
> Fedora requires a higher level of Linux competence to use than Ubuntu
> both because it's a development platform (which means that it's more
> likely to break) and because you have to use 3rd party respositories to
> install non-free codecs (alternatively in F9 they've built in a paid for
> source of non-free codecs for those who are to lazy to set up the Livna
> 3rd party respository). Ubuntu is a little more stable and they have
> repositories for non-free codecs built in. However Fedora usually has
> newer components than Ubuntu.
>
> Redhat is the only Linux distro company that makes any money off of
> Linux, they've been very profitable. Ubuntu maybe more focused on the
> desktop but they don't make any money. Ubuntu is introducing an
> Enterprise product with the hope of competing with Redhat. They may well
> succeed because their desktop offering is so popular, but at the moment
> they aren't a player in that space.
>
> That said, you could use the Fedora 9 tools to create an Ubuntu Live USB
> flash stick. I don't know if the overlay feature will work or not, it
> might. I do know that the Fedora flash installer will work with any iso.

Thanks for the info!!

jim