Twayne or Whoever

Twayne wrote:
>> Twayne
>
> I am Twayne: I did not write what's below. It is misquoted by
> someone apparently ignorant of such things.

That's irrelevant so far as I am concened.

>
> Since the dummy trying to pose as me knows so much, I wonder why he
> didn't post a solution? 3rd party apps are the easiest, but it CAN be
> done without them by basically turning off/moving the PF, starting in
> Safe Mode, and defrag the hard drive, then turn the page file back on
> and set it up. Once the files are defragged and contiguous, then the
> PF will have to be the same and will be the same; contiguous.

Not necessarily true. It depends on the way the pagefile is managed. If
managed by Windows it will not stay contiguous. A fixed ie.
minimum=maximum pagefile will be immovable and if contiguous it will
stay contiguous, unless or until you change the pagefile setting.


> Caveat: If you're not familiar with how to do this effectively and
> moving the swap file around, don't do it; you'll have less than
> satisfactory results.

I presently have a contiguous pagefile created without using a third
party utility.

>Better to use a trusted 3rd party app.

If you have money to burn.

>
> HTH
>
> Twayne, the real one.
>
>>
>> That's why you should ignore "MS's defrag will tell you it's not
>> needed."
>
> Untrue: MS's defrag will indeed tell you a defrag is needed, when it
> is needed and is causing too many waits during accesses.
>

My statement was true just as your one is; because we are referring to
opposite sides of the same coin.


> You should select View Report and look at the real situation.
>
> Yes, assuming you're talking about Defrag's report. BUT, you will
> still need to be experienced enough to know whether the fragmented
> files are a problem yet or not.

It really does not matter if you run Disk Defragmenter more often than
might be absolutely necessary. Besides it's running Disk CleanUp or the
like before running Disk Deframenter, which when carried out together,
combine to bring benefits..

>
> Depding on what I'm doing, I defrag monthly. But, if I'm doing
> something that creates zillions of temporary files such as design
> work, or especially video editing and rendering, I do so more often.
> Video work in fact requires a defrag every day, sometimes more often,
> depending on what's going on with any particular drive. Those are
> good reasons to keep a separate working partition for design/video
> etc. types of work; they defrag faster and don't mess with the boot
> drive much.

I would agree with this line of thought. Benefits can accrue if you
remove files that fragment rapidly from the windows partition.

>It's a matter of learning your machine and experience,
> mostly.
>> However, it's not just a matter of frequently accessed files. You
>> will normally not need to access System Restore restore points but
>> if left fragmented their size, will on a disk with limited free disk
>> space, cause fragmentation of other files, which are in active use.
>
> Existing Restore Points will have zero impact on fragmentation.

Incorrect.

> Fragmentation only happens when data is written TO the drive.

True.

> The
> total space used for restore points, although excessive IMO, is
> limited and they do not grow uncontrollably.

Restore points can be of some size. They are created automatically daily
and if you install Windows Update. Their impact on fragmentation will be
more significant when there is limited free disk space.

>>
>> It's questionable whether you want any Norton product on your
>> computer. Perfect Disk is I suspect more highly rated but there is
>> really no need to pay for a third party defragmenter.
>
> It's none of your business to comment on what anyone else had decided
> to use on their computers.

Irrelevant.

>I'm sure I could say the same about some
> of the apps you use too, but even if the opportunity arose and you
> asked for assistance, I wouldn't tell you to trash it unless it was
> actually rogue or malicious somehow.

I did not suggest trashing Diskeeper.

> Norton, BTW, has an excellent ability to open up the area where a PF
> wants to live, and makes it easy to create a continguous PF. Norton's
> defrag app is also far form the only feature provided by their
> software package; in fact, it's a small part of it. Symantec's
> Norton Ghost is pretty decent as is their firewall app. But you
> don't know that because you allowed Norton to slow down your computer
> by bad setups and probably have no idea what it's capable of.

A lot of users have dumped Norton when they realised the way it
adversely impacts on system performance.

>That's
> fine with me. The only app I'm using right now is Ghost, but it's a
> great app with True Image running a very close second. But you won't
> know that either because of your parrot/misattribution mentality.
>
> Learn to quote properly. Flame away; I won't be wasting ether on you
> for awhile to come.

I am only interested in correcting what I see as incorect statements
made in the last post. I am not interested in trading personal abuse.


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Hope this helps.

Gerry
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